RE: The Immigration Conundrum

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This is a thorny issue for sure.

I am supportive of legal immigration. Come here announced, the right way and with a decent background with no gangs or violence (a fist fight doesn’t count IMO, but attempted murder? No thanks) in the record and I’m all for it. We need people of all stripes, backgrounds and abilities to keep this thing going.

Where it gets squirrelly.. when it’s used as a political tool, both for the modern liberals and conservatives (emphasis on modern, classical liberals would be appalled lol I imagine John Locke seeing what we call a liberal now..). The liberals think we should be wide open, no restrictions and the conservatives think we should be completely closed.

I think we need to get back to sensible immigration but it will never happen because it’s such an easy and convenient tool for division agendas and politics. Division is the easiest form of control and it’s unfortunate that people don’t realize it for what it is.

The situation in places like Ireland and Britain is that the people are brought in, don’t assimilate to the culture of the place they are going (with caveats of course but there is well known rape culture in the middle eastern and northern African countries sadly, and it is being fomented on the people of the region) and then try to change the place to be like how it is where they came from.

There’s a lot of things in between there but I think this is also a tool used for division politics. It’s no secret how much money the ilk of Soros are dumping into the Open Society related foundations and the destruction that occurs after they get going in an area.

I think that’s a good spot to pause and see what your thoughts are :D



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Division is the easiest form of control and it’s unfortunate that people don’t realize it for what it is.

Oh yes. Politicians play us like a fiddle..if we let them. They do this by appealing to the baser parts of our nature.

We need people of all stripes, backgrounds and abilities to keep this thing going.

Yes! Immigration made this nation great. Anyway, go back far enough in any country's history and you will not find a homogeneous past. People have wandered across the face of the earth from the very beginning.

And of course there have to be rules. Who will make them? Just another political football.

I'm so tired of the different sides...liberals, conservatives. Right, left. Soros, Koch. Red flags, waved to get our attention, to mold us, direct us, get from us what they need.

I'm tired of the anger and the hate.

To go back to immigration. We need the labor. We need the ideas. We need the diversity. We also need to show compassion. Again I say, there have to be rules, but whose rules? Which races, which nationalities, which occupations, which socioeconomic classes will be favored?

I don't have any solutions because I don't think our country is in the mood for mending. I see trouble ahead. Even more than we have experienced lately.

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Yeah the solutions part is the hardest one. We know that we need a way forward that is fair for those who are good citizens and will keep those who are criminals and convicts who have no true intention of reform, away.

Indeed countries are meant to be homogenous! We have always been like that in history I feel. America is one of the most beautiful melting pots but because it is one of the most radical experiments in self government, and our system allows for such liberties with the law, it has been twisted and manipulated for many decades. I've read some decent history about how after the Revolutionary War, one of the business giants of the time (I forget his name, Robert Morris I believe?) was trying to levy taxes hardcore, the same way England was. The elitism has always been there, sadly.

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It’s no secret how much money the ilk of Soros are dumping into the Open Society related foundations and the destruction that occurs after they get going in an area.

This confuses me. Just looked up the Open Society Foundation. Of course I've heard of Soros and I know he is a frequent target of the right, but why? How exactly does Soros and the Open Society Foundation hurt our country? What exactly does Soros do that hurts the USA. I truly don't know because I stay away from the social media fray and just make up my own mind about individual issues. As you know, I am a student of history. Do my reading and try to understand. So I'd like to understand what is wrong with Soros.

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Soros is a very big proponent of completely open borders, seemingly non-existent, and releasing hardened criminals. He funds district attorney's in many of the "blue" states like California, Minnesota and others that are unbelievably lenient on crime. A famous example is a dude who got arrested like 20+ times for minor violent stuff before he murdered someone. The DA and judges that kept letting him out were Soros funded and their previous colleagues did not do such things.

He has funded lots of things in Europe to destabilize the countries and is not bashful about his disdain of America, despite his use of it and the systems to gain more and more wealth.

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