Trump is a covert KGB agent, there is no other explanation for what happened ...

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looks like the beginning of the end of the era of Russophobia and the LGBT agenda

For 11 years, the United States and Europe did not find the strength and resources to win on the battlefield.
As a businessman, Trump throws away a losing asset if he fails to emerge from the conflict as a peacemaker

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Would you make piece with an aggressor? Or would youu search for justice and retribution?

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It happens that aggression is an act of justice.
...when common sense arguments don't work.
Moreover, history knows many such examples without calling such acts aggression

And are you on the side of truth, or on the side of the war, nationalists and Banderaites?

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Aggression is morally justified only against aggression. Otherwise, the only way is diplomacy and obedience to International laws.

This war is moraly unjustifiable, unless you are a moral nihilist, which is the case of every autocrats mindset.

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Attempting to kill your own killer is neither nihilism nor autocracy.
If they intend to destroy you, diplomacy is a sure path to death.
With a kind word and a gun, you can achieve more than with just a kind word. If you recall, we were diplomatically warned, even begged not to start.
Those who do not understand diplomacy, I kick in the groin—that's normal!
Should have thought earlier.

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This silly argument "justifies" any war and has always been used by tyrants throughout history. This is precisely why Jesus said it was important to never suppose the worst case scenario and believe in forgiveness, humanity and good intentions. Otherwise distrust will always "justify" evil.

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It's silly to claim that my arguments are silly without presenting your own.
Jesus is far from modern realities.
Putin warned that those who would not understand political arguments would face military consequences, and he kept his word.
And what do you think about Palestine, Yugoslavia, Iraq? Who acted as the bloody aggressor here?
Or is it different? ;)))

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Morality and reason will never be out of modern reality, unless you are a nihilist. Every evil has a pseudo "justification" based on distrust.

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is that why Zelensky refused the deal with Trump, citing distrust of Putin?)))

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Zelesky needs security against tyranny. This is his main priority now. He was ambushed, provoked not to make a shameful deal.

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Zelensky himself is a tyrant!
He closed the borders and put me on a wanted list because I don’t want to die for the Bandera supporters. He imprisons people like me for such dialogue, for expressing an opinion.
They catch us on the streets and forcibly send us to fight, with the police involved!
You’re either a fool or a Nazi if you support Zelensky’s corrupt, titanic regime.
Ukrainians will run out before we defeat Russia.

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No, he is not a tyrant, he just is not a Saint. He only was obliged to do the same thing Putin is doing in Russia due to the immediate circumstances. Do you think Putin is a tyrant? Would you put both at the same moral level?

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Ha-ha😂 Putin never indulged in the dirt and evil that Zelensky does. You may not believe me, but this truth will soon become a fact as obvious as the American biological laboratories in Ukraine!
when you learn the truth not from a Ukrainian, but from TV, you will be very ashamed of your delusions and support of Nazism!

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You don"t start a war based on suppositions about a politician democratically elected that you dislike. Do you believe Putin is a democratically elected politician?

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It seems I'm starting to understand. You're one of those who think that everything in Russia is bad and the people are suffering under their ruler? Believe me, Russians will experience great sorrow and fear when someone else replaces Putin. As a ruler, you’re unlikely to find such a successful candidate. Look at how Russia has risen economically under his leadership, how the standard of living for Russians has improved, the minimum wages... You live in some kind of information bubble.

Even I, as a Ukrainian, would vote for him, so why do you doubt that his own people would want something different? Unlike Ukrainians, dissatisfied Russians have the opportunity to leave their country, but I do not. I am wanted, and according to Zelensky, I am supposed to die fighting Putin, who has never personally wished me any harm!

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I don't care if eventually the people like or dislike the dictator, I just believe democracy is morally superior because it allows the people to remove the leaders. And mortality is everything in this life, don't you think?

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So in Russia there is now much more democracy than in Ukraine

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I am not asking exactly now, because Ukraine is fighting for it existence. I am asking about the pre war situation. Putin is more democratic than Zelensky?

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Starting from the 2014, people here are oppressed on the basis of language! here they burned dissidents alive with impunity! (Odessa May 2)
but even now you can google restaurants serving Ukrainian cuisine in Moscow, or find schools teaching subjects in Ukrainian.
What you think about?

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According to data from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) and other international organizations, since the beginning of the conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014 and especially after the escalation of the situation in 2022, a significant number of Ukrainian citizens have relocated to Russia. Official figures vary, but estimates suggest that by 2023, several million Ukrainian refugees had arrived in Russia.

For example, Russian authorities reported that by the end of 2022, over 2.8 million people had entered the country. However, exact numbers may differ depending on the source and methodology used for counting. UNHCR also notes that many Ukrainians are displaced within the country or have left for other states, including EU countries.

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Would you prefer a dictatorship under Putin?

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I’m ready to give any money to exchange Ukrainian democracy for Putin’s “dictatorship!”))) but dictator Zelensky deprived me of such opportunities. I can’t even go to work safely, because they’ll steal me and take me to a trench🤬

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So your morality derives from your personal interests? That is why you prefer Putin than Zelensky?

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alternatively, put your actions where your mouth is and go and fight:
https://hfu.org/how-to-join-the-ukraine-army/#
You'll be in reality within 2 weeks.
...as one arguing for the continuation of fighting should do.

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I ask you to do the same, go to the frontline to die for Putin and his values. Do you believe in Putin's moral values?

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I am not the one hanging out here defending a stance that promotes sending weapons into a war zone. You do.

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First and foremost I defend the respect of the internationally recognized borders. I suppose it is you here that condones invation and the use of violence.

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Then why don't you sign up for what you defend?

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Because there are professionals entitled to this. If I defend justice it does not implies that I can, or I need to do it with my own hands.

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so, will you sign up for what you seem to stand for?

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Did uou do the same, provided that you agreed with the use of violence?

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I am not supporting this violence.

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Yes I think you do because you support Putin, the dictator that started it and can stop it whenever he wants.

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Only those who pay bribes can move around here freely! Or if you're a soldier, a police officer, an official, a media worker, or a circus performer... !!!
Ordinary people are caught, and if you don’t have $1K–5K for a bribe, then regardless of your family status or health condition, you’ll end up in a trench on the front lines under Russian bombs—whether you want it or not, whether you’re ready for it or not.
And if you become disabled, your benefit will be around $60 a month. All treatment falls on the shoulders of volunteers...
You simply can’t imagine the level of hell that’s here right now.

absolute lawlessness, corruption and banditry at the state level!

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That is why you trust more and prefers Putins regime?

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Did you have telegram?
https://t.me/ukr_narod_opir
Can see yourself!

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You would first better become more deeply familiar with the content of my blog before entering into discussions on the side of Bandera and the Nazis.

soon you will see the whole truth even on your “TV”(press)

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I don't.

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It’s worth installing at least to look at the situation inside through my eyes

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there is even a web version

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That is precisely why Russian authorities—Roskomnadzor—have long been unsuccessfully trying to block this messenger.

You are consuming Ukrainian, Russophobic propaganda.

Your authorities criticize Telegram solely because it is the last place where one can obtain uncensored information from any side. Yes, terrorism, pedophilia, and drug trafficking are suppressed there, but this platform allows for the free and anonymous expression of any point of view! There is both Russian and Ukrainian propaganda there, and only by comparing this contradictory information can one get closer to the true state of affairs! People there, just like here, run their own channels based on their interests, and you yourself choose whose presentation of facts you prefer.

Of course, Ukrainians criticize Telegram because it is impossible to block the spread of evidence of the horrors of forced mobilization, facts of war crimes by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and Zelensky.

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I could say exactly the same thing about you. You are acting not morality, but based only on self interest defending Putin and his regime, and not morals.

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As long as I live in Zelensky's concentration camp, I don't care about morality. I'm also not very interested in the morality of a person who is superficially familiar with the situation, who is far from Ukraine - my home, and Russia - where I strive to save myself, and where I am devoured by numerous free and happy relatives.

I would not like to quarrel, so I suggest that we end our dialogue here. At least until you learn the obvious facts of the crimes of the Zelensky regime.
And when I get to Russia, I will make a video for you. A happy, contented video of a person without fears! For now, it is mortally dangerous to do so

Have a good day!

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This is our main difference here. You deeply know you don't care about morality, while my whole arguments revolve around it. To me this is a moral issue, more than anything else.

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Look at how Russia has risen economically under his leadership

It is continuosly (and most willingly) ignored in the west, 26 or so years of history.

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The reality is that sacrifices will have to be made—either territory or the nation itself—if mutual concessions are not made to move closer to peace. Zelensky is not in a position to insist on his own terms. While he tries to stand his ground, Slavs continue to perish.

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If Putin invades Estonia, the President of Estonia will not be in a good position and will need to beg for help. This will always be the situation when a stronger bullies and hurts a weaker.

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Unlike Russians, who freely travel the world, it is I, a Ukrainian, who am restricted in my constitutional rights, in freedom of speech, and in the right to movement. Unlike my relatives, who are lured to the front by lucrative contracts rather than forced by violence, sticks, and repression!
I see this from the inside, so you won’t be able to convince me with the narratives instilled in you by the media bought with USAID money.

It is they who have instilled in you a fear of Russia!
Estonia is not under any threat, as long as they avoid the Ukrainian mistake of Russophobia.

There is a line, crossing which, you turn from defending good guys into an even greater evil than the one you were defending against.
The Bandera regime does not deserve to exist in the modern world.

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Do you really believe that Putin is morally superior than Zelensky?

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I don’t just think so, I feel it in my own skin every f..ng day!!!

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Do you believe Zelensky to be a dictator? Do you have any notice of Zelensky posoning and killing political rivals?

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Yes, Gonzalo Lira, before dying in Ukrainian prisons, directly spoke about the crimes of the Ukrainian authorities...

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The banning of communist parties and mass media, the prohibition of the Russian language, the cancellation of elections, forced mobilization of the population, the abolition of constitutional rights, restrictions on freedom of speech/movement... These are all examples of the usurpation of power, which can quite reasonably be considered a dictatorship.
And none of the above exists in Russia!
So, who is the dictator, and where is there more freedom?

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Wow, finally you found one. And Putin, can you find some?

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I didn't notice the point in your message. will you explain?🤔

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Do you think Zelensky poisoned more enemies than Putin?

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Are you only worried about those who have been poisoned? Zelensky killed many more people with his decisions. Zelensky could have prevented the war, as he promised his electorate, but did nothing to keep his promise!

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Zelensky is the leader of a country at war.

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overdue president, usurper of power, traitor to the Ukrainian and Jewish peoples, puppet)))

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More than Putin?

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No, unlike Putin!🤣

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Are you serious Putin never poisoned nobody?

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First of all, I never claimed this! and secondly, how do I to know this for sure?? Of my friends, definitely nobody!

Have you ever thought that in the wars started by America, many more people died than in the wars started by Russia? the only difference is that the leaders have changed, although there is much more blood in the J.Bush than in Putin!

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If you could speculate about who poisoned more political enemies, whould you say Zelensky or Putin?

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If we reason hypothetically, then of course Putin, given his longer political career, would be more likely [to eliminate opponents]. If we start looking for evidence, it might end up like the case of Hunter Biden's laptop, which Russia had nothing to do with, but over 50 FBI agents were fired for lying about it, among other things.
If you think Putin is the first or only one willing to harshly eliminate his opponents, you are very mistaken.
MOSSAD is an example of this!

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Do you think the suspected poisonings and assassinations are the only moral problems of Putin's regime? Do you consider him a legitimate and democratic ruler? Do you believe him to be a war criminal and Zelensky not?

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First and foremost, I stand for freedom of speech. If there were no censorship, you would be able to find answers to your questions on your own. Moreover, you wouldn’t be asking such foolish questions because the truth would be obvious to you.

Soon, within our lifetime, a military tribunal will take place, and there, qualified individuals, whose authority is beyond doubt, will present you with facts that will make your hair stand on end!

You probably missed history lessons where they talked about the atrocities committed by the Banderites? Now they are national heroes of Ukraine. Here, they erect monuments to them and name streets after them.

Here, the church is being banned, wake up, priests are being imprisoned for their faith!

Your naive questions simply leave me stunned. It’s as if we live on different planets.

If the authorities find a device with this dialogue on me, I will be imprisoned for at least three years. It is forbidden by law to have such a point of view. Is this the kind of democracy you want?🤐

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You didn"t answer the main question at stake here: do you believe Putin is a war criminal?

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it's not a religion that you can believe in or not)) I don't have any facts about his war crimes.
maybe you have a source with the judges' conclusion about his war crimes, I'll read it with interest.
but for now this is all your impression formed by your anti-Russian press

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It is not about faith, it is all about morals. Morality is not a matter of personal faith, unless you are a moral nihilist, which I believe you are.

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just let your bubble burst, it's not that bad.

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So you just believe in your bubble that is the news that comes from Russia?

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No, I am sorry, I did not want to put you in any corner; I just observed that bursting bubbles can be good for health & sanity; they were for mine at least..
(btw., my opinions on the subject were formed during extensive travels and living in the areas you are discussing. Do you have any relation to Russia or Ukraine? Do you have friends there? Do you speak Russian? If not, than I'd say 'bubble' might be a correct term.)

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This is the falacy of authority. Attack my arguments, not the arguer.

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I am just doubting your expertise here.

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My expertise here is morality and moral arguments. Do they mean anything for you?

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As you wrote in another comment, you expect others to do the dirty work. Your work seems to be the morality. As a plus it is also very low risk, and no consequences for you. I guess you also reside far away, so you are really not concerned. Me, I live next door and some of my friends in Ukraine are dead.

Bottom line, as dire as that sounds, this is the harsh reality: It is paramount to realise when to give up. And people all around perpetuating the illusion of winning are most responsible for the deaths.
(I know this paragraph will make you happy, you still believe in a finaly UA victory (to the last man!). Let's talk again in 1-3 years. We will officially have a failed state by then.)

But never the less: If you would follow through on your words, you would have to volunteer in Ukraine.

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You don't need to be able to do justice with your own hands to argue and defend it. Otherwise only soldiers could opinionate about wars, and priests could teach nothing about marriage. This is a silly argument, in fact it is a falacy, the argumentum ad hominem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

In fact it can not even be considered an argument, but only a threat and intimidation of the arguer

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If you argue for more killing, you should be ready to be killed ;)
(it's bit like it is not very balanced to eat meat but not be able to slaughter what you eat).

I guess you are not on the continent where this war is happening?

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I argue about morality, justice, and enduring peace, not temporary and unjust peace.

Would you make peace with Hitler, or negotiate peace with terrorist groups for instance?

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We argue what we can argue; the real question is the base of our arguments.

If I have personal experience I value that more than anything I or somebody else read or watched.

Your arguments are in a way that you will never have to dirty your hands. This is a stance that is in stark contrast to the reality people have to deal with. So in my opinion they are lazy arguments without much behind it, as far as I can see.

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Yes, many people that starts wars would never go to the frontline themselves, for instance, Purin.

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