Charlie Kirk & Iryna Zarutska - The Cold Blooded murders in a Cold Civil War?
Shit is going down in the USA right now.
Honestly, it's going down all over. The UK has its Operation: Raise the Colours, dozens of protests nationwide and free speech rallys.
France has once again set itself on fire with prime ministers being replaced as often as toilet paper, and now the #blockeverything protests are, well, blocking everything, with fire, overturned cars, trash cans and everything else.
Nepal has also joined in after the government attempted to ban social media, caused 19 deaths in response to the riots, and general corruption. The prime minister resigned. The Finance minister was stripped to his underwear and literally paraded into the river while people threw shit at him with what seemed to be a bag over his head as he marched in shame. Others were seen literally dangling off a helicopter in an emergency escape from the riots.
And now, I suspect the USA is at a boiling point and I'm not quite sure how everybody is going to response, but I don't expect it to be particularly pretty. The number of normal Americans who will have been completely and utterly radicalised over the last couple of days gives an air of change akin to revolution.
Iryna Zarutska
I genuinely felt so sad about this story, as so many others did. A beautiful young girl, 23 years old, a refugee from Ukraine arriving in the US to seek literal refuge from violence and death, only to discover she ended up in an even more dangerous land.
She got a work visa granted, started work - I think she had two simple jobs, and also worked with some charitable cause (I'm no journalist look it up). She got on a train heading home in the new country she loved. The carriage had numerous black folk (yes, race comes into it) were sat in the carriage. The black guy behind her saw her as an opportunity. Got out a knife, and stabbed her right in the neck.
She looked at the man, Decarlos Brown Jr, in shock and terror. She clearly couldn't comprehend what was happening to her as she covered her face to cry before slowly fading into death 15 seconds or so later, blood pooling around her.
Meanwhile, two more things were happening.
The sicko himself was marching down the aisle dripping blood, saying 'I got that white girl', and rehearsing his excuses for the police.
The people in the carriage of Iryna turned to look out the window, continued sitting, ignoring. Nobody asked if she was ok. None of the men approached the murderer. One man just left the area. It took 1 minute and 35 seconds - long after she had collapsed in her own blood - for anyone to approach her to help.
Now sure, there are countless random acts of violence and murder in the US every day. But this one hits harder because there are so many layers of failure all hitting simultaneously.
Although I'm not convinced he necessarily did this because she was white, given the context of the race division in the US, it's entirely plausible. He didn't attack the other black folk, after all. She did nothing, didn't even pay attention to him, she was minding her own business. But he chose her.
And now, we have a division again in social media. There are thousands of black people out there celebrating this as some kind of revenge for George Floyd. 'Now we're even', I've seen numerous times. There have been a whole bunch of gofundme campaigns not to donate to Iryna, but to the murderer. So yes, race is very much a part of this story.
Then there's the fact this man was in and out of prison fourteen times, seemingly let into the streets by overly liberal judges - the latest of which turns out to not even have any qualifications and only passed a 40-hour training course (apparently that's a thing over there).
His brother, Stacey Dejon Brown, is incidentally also a murderer serving 30-odd years, gunning down a man in a robbery. A family of evil, given chance after chance. Released over and over, practically daring them to do something heinous, and evil until they did.

Yet another layer is that the man was evidently Schizophrenic. This debilitating condition is supposedly 1.5-3x more common among black people than white - not likely due to some innate or biological differences, but something systemic. Even African Americans know, and talk about often, these systemic problems that go far beyond just 'slavery 400 years ago'. There are things within their communities which are causing more impoverished and violent youths, which in turn creates more dangerous Schizophrenic individuals who then go out and murder under the guise of a voice (or 'material') telling them to.
But these things are not discussed, not fixed, not prevented. And now an innocent young Ukrainian girl has suffered the consequences.
This single death is symbolic of systematic failure across the board.
Charlie Kirk
I've heard this guy's name a couple of times but didn't know him beyond the fact he tends to debate political opponents in free and fair conversations among crowds. He seems much bigger and popular than that (his twitter has almost 6 million followers) so I guess he does much more. But to me, it's enough to know he's a moderate conservative with a wife and two kids.
Clearly his arguments were good, as his arguments were his death sentence. Once some people realise they can't win through dialogue, they turn to violence, and this is exactly what happened. A sniper from over 400 feet away shot him right in the jugular, in front of a huge crowd and, tragically, in front of his family - on camera for all to see.
I saw it by accident and my god the thickness of the blood spraying from his body is unlike anything I've seen before. It looked almost exaggerated with a pump for some kind of stunt in a movie. It was absolutely brutal.
A brutal, horrific murder of a man because he is good at debating political opponents. Just wow.
What's worse is as of this writing, they arrested the wrong guy, and the right one is still out there. If they spent time on the wrong guy, I guess it's extremely likely the actual murderer will have had enough time to get away by now. Is it too late?
This death is again a symbol of systematic failure. There's footage of a guy on his phone literally zooming into the shooter on the roof, questioning what a guy is doing lying down on the roof like that. But he doesn't report it. Nobody swept the rooftops in advance.
The fact that people have become so desperately radicalised over words is not something that happened overnight. The news media have been pumping this up for literally years, over and over calling people Nazis, calling them dangerous, saying this is the 'last chance to save our democracy', calling January the 6th 'the worst thing since 9/11'. They have been fabricating panic non-stop. And this is the result.
Some people speculate this guy was a professional, and it's hard to disagree given the distance and having a sniper, and the fact he's still at large. Hired on the dark web? The same killers as Epstein? Lots of speculation. Honestly, I just can't even fathom this particular target. There are far more 'worthy', if you think in that deranged leftist mindset, targets to be killing than a guy that just sits around chatting with people. Why hire a professional assassin for a random influencer type?
Charlie Kirk was only 31 years old. Some people say he was going to become one of the next presidents in future years. Perhaps that's why. Or, perhaps he slept with somebody's wife and this was simple vengeance. Perhaps it was his actual wife doing the hiring. We have literally no idea. But he didn't deserve this.
Much like Iryna's case with black people on video saying they literally don't care, that she deserved it, and so forth, places like Reddit, Instagram, Facebook and beyond are all cheering the murder of an innocent father. They bray like donkeys, cackle like the pigs in Animal farm as they slowly become corrupted into the worst animal: humans.
Good. This guy I disagree with online is dead and his family forever destroyed. He shouldn't have had slightly different opinions to me. I think I'll make a cake with a picture of his exploded neck on it to celebrate
Sick people out there.
Consequences
With such a large platform, the consequences are going to be huge. These two stories blew up within 48 hours of each other. Each one completely dominating social media. They have fueled a fire. People are becoming radicalised. You don't martyr two people in a week and see nothing happen in response.
I don't know exactly what is going to happen, whether it's Trump and his power with a legislative pen, a riot, an eye for an eye - assassination style. I don't know. I want to say 'I hope nothing', but honestly, something has to be done. At least we can hope it won't turn into another Nepal-esque situation.
But it's not like we're already seeing such escalation, with Trump assassinations on one side, and only a couple of months ago, there was the assassination of the democratic politician, Melissa Hortman. The back and forth is already unstoppable.
If it was me in control, I would just shut down every single mainstream media source that has pushed this panic narrative, permanently. I'd put the failed judges behind bars indefinitely. I'd have Decarlos Brown Jr Hanged, Drawn & Quartered, his remains paraded around the subway system within the week. I do not care whether he was mentally ill or otherwise.
There are a lot of people out there suggesting far more radical things than this, and I just wonder how far people are willing to be pushed into a corner before they start biting back.
Only thing i don't agree with here partially is that places like reddit are celebrating it, most of that would get downvoted to 0 and possibly banned site-wide. I guess it's similar to hive in many ways minus the ban thing due to blockchain and most frontends not bothering unless it's a dmca strike.
Twitter on the other hand is far crazier and for sure that may be happening there in every tweet and replies liked to the top on most tweets. It's like they wanna prove they are pro freedom of speech but aside from notes there's no moderation happening so it's mostly crazy accounts being loud and others going along with it seeing how far they can take it.
Tragedy in both cases indeed. First one is far worse to me personally due to how innocent and a nobody she was. If I was living in the US I'd generally be scared of public places seeing the systematic failure of the publics health possibly due to capitalism.
Yeah I suppose Twitter but also TikTok and others, these are flooded with donkey-like braying of cheerful celebrations for both of these murders. It's mental.
I felt much sadder with the first one, when you see her reaction close up and you just imagine she's your daughter in the future or something... damn.
But at the same time, Charlie seemed to have a perfect family who will now suffer for the rest of their lives which is pretty horrid to imagine. USA is an absolute mess.
Luckily I didn't see the video showing the actual stabbing and reaction, don't really have the heart for that anymore. I'm passed the r/watchpeopledie curiosity days 😅
Yeah me too, annoyed I saw it just innocently scrolling by -__-
Unfortunately I did see the kirk one though, wasn't even looking for it, looked quite bad like it hit his spine as well.
Speaking of reddit:
Those downvotes speak volumes! (I've also been seeing an absolute ton of open celebrations there too)
It's hard to say, both upvotes and downvotes are easy to be purchased these days, and the anonymity of them is also a way to let people condone dumb stuff they wouldn't do publicly. So while it is quite wtf I wouldn't say it says much, think of like all the botviewers on streams and websites that themselves inflate numbers to pretend there's more active users than there really are because shareholders.
Maybe, but reddit is famously a left-wing place, and it's essentially normalised now to celebrate such things much like the assassination of that insurance CEO, the killer was practically held up across reddit as a hero to be revered for centuries to come for... doing what the company required him to do. And the Trump attempt, another hero of reddit... sigh.
But yeah reddit is nothing compared to the others; twitter, bluesky etc
They do still censor a lot, i guess it's just the people, luigi was an angel compared to this murderer to them so everyone was taking his side due to who the victim was a ceo of and previous history. I mean I understand what's happening but it's kind of gray area stuff, would be interesting to see how that would go over here. Downvote wars potentially.
Yeah people would get way more butthurt here with real - kinda - consequence heh
Your post highlights how tragedies like these ripple far beyond individuals, showing the urgent need for empathy and real solutions. Yet, a serious problem everywhere 😔
The issue is what is the consensus on 'real solutions'? It seems there is no consensus on that - which may be a large part of the problem... I can't count how many times I've read people on social media say 'I'm becoming radicalised by this'. Both left and right political groups are turning insane
Humans are generally disgusting cunts.
Cannot disagree. So much footage out there of people ignoring people they could have saved. It's nothing new at all.
It's shameful, but a sign of where humanity has come, willingly and wilfully.
Shame on humans.
Kitty Genovese murder, 1964, Bystander Effect:
History.com
The world is sick. Until the focus is on making people healthy, the violence will escalate. The economy is driven by profit seeking at any cost, which has inevitably accelerated the decline in health at all levels of humanity and society. I predict it is only going to get much worse.
It makes you question our collective idea of 'progress' - Atheism, Electronics, globalism... perhaps these are rather regressive, after all and we just got lost in the buzz of it all.
Dear @mobbs !
I mourn the tragic deaths of Charlie Kirk & Iryna Zarutska!
I remember many unfortunate incidents like this in the past!
Now, thanks to the advancement of the internet, such incidents can easily be relayed to the public.
But, I believe there are still more kind and good people in the world like you!
There's been 46 school shootings in the US just this year already so really, these two murders are depressingly nothing new, or really anything special... Such an awful truth.
That being said, violent crime in US is trending downwards, but social media won't let us feel that way!
And don't worry, I have no intention of shooting you any time soon ;)
Is the crime trending downward because there's less people to do the crime because they're senselessly murdered?
That would be an insane murder rate if so! But I genuinely don't know. I assume more crimes are reported and investigated nowadays, and to a higher standard, but I guess the internet, porn and computer games have kind of subdued people somewhat, and as much as it doesn't feel like it, Western society has become a lot more prosperous overall.
In the UK, certain crime is skyrocketing (sexual assaults for one), while others have fallen off a cliff. So there may be something there too
Meanwhile, here, crime is down because the resources to enter it into the system don't exist, can't be retained due to toxic "cop culture", resignations, retirements, and a lack of administrative staff.
I applied for an admin role in the "force" and got knocked back. They didn't like my Psychometric testing results. No idea why :)
I think the statistic is 95% of all robberies go un-investigated in the UK, or end without conviction.
So, in a very literal, real sense, robbery is legal in the UK. You wanna rob a car? Just do it. Insurance should handle it. Maybe.
We actually have more police than ever, they're just mishandled to an insane degree. Five cops spent on visiting homes to arrest people for tweets. Ohhhh im getting angry again
Just don't tweet about it bro. Help is available. We're here for you. :)
Neither of them deserved to die.
Remember George Floyd (RIP)? It was public OUTRAGE. White folks were bowing down and apologizing for being white!? And not that roles were reversed you have an official BLM Instagram saying black people have A RIGHT TO VIOLENCE and approving the killing!!?!?! Hello!? No big media outlet reported on poor Iryna and her brutal killing. Silence all around. A Ukrainian refugee came with her family in good faith for a bright future and got her life taken away. She’s a year younger than me.. no one that witnessed her murder came to help. The typical American opinion “mind my business get out alive”. It took more than 10 minutes for someone to come up to her and help, it was too late.
And to those that set the criminal free after so many incidents, they deserve to rot in jail too.
And for Kirk, personally I didn’t agree with a majority of his opinions, he had some good takes but all in all he was using his right to free speech and he got killed for it. He got killed by a member of the left wing that are AGAINST THE USE OF GUNS. But they resorted to it. They couldn’t match Kirk with the words so they used something else to shut him up.
I’m not right wing. But seeing all of these people CELEBRATING DEATH and cheering is insane. People that defend Palestine now don’t seem to care about 2 innocent children that are left without a father now.
I am genuinely at loss for words for these 2 events. Celebrating the death of someone you disagree with (I mean the people with opposing views) instead of having an ounce of humanity and feeling sorry for their family is beyond f-ed up.
RIP
Charlie & Iryna
You should probably avoid twitter and bluesky and all that lot...
But yes, well said. I genuinely believe Social Media is like 70% responsible for this crazed foaming-at-the-mouth citizenry we've raised.
I thought some of Kirk's opinions I reviewed were straight up religious wacko loony stuff. But like... I'm just like 'huh, that's kinda loony' and moved on. To get so emotionally embroiled in some random guy's words to the point you'd assassinate, or pay ungodly amounts to hire an assassin... it's hard to comprehend! Just fucking move on to something else lol. There's a block feature for a reason. You don't have to click on that youtube video. Eesh.
I say the same thing to myself. I gotta log off sometimes🤣
But it genuinely baffles me how there’s heartless people that are willingly celebrating the killing of a father, husband, brother and someone’s child just cuz he didn’t fit their narrative.
Yeah, his opinions are definitely for the extreme right wing but taking the time of your day to assassinate an innocent civilian is like you said hard to comprehend. And I genuinely feel sorry that any of this is happening over there. It’s not normal. I hope he gets justice
This article is truly shocking and thought-provoking. It's heartbreaking to see how deep social and systemic problems exist, not just in the US but throughout much of the world. Iryna's experience, in particular, feels less like an individual tragedy and more like a reflection of serious flaws and negligence within society. The combination of violence, race, gaps in the justice system, and mental health issues demonstrates how easily the lives of innocent people can be impacted. Stories like these remind us that we mustn't turn a blind eye, but rather discuss the problems and seek solutions. @mobbs
The latter guy, Charlie, his entire career was discussion. I believe his motto was 'prove me wrong' or something to that effect. He ended up dead... there needs to be something more than just communication but I'm not quite sure what... Difficult times
This article is truly shocking and thought-provoking. It's heartbreaking to see how deep social and systemic problems exist, not just in the US but throughout much of the world. Iryna's experience, in particular, feels less like an individual tragedy and more like a reflection of serious flaws and negligence within society. The combination of violence, race, gaps in the justice system, and mental health issues demonstrates how easily the lives of innocent people can be impacted. Stories like these remind us that we mustn't turn a blind eye, but rather discuss the problems and seek solutions. @mobbs
Already replied to this but yeah well said!
Before today, I was to think that USA is safe. People can protest, they have right to protest. And I was planning to go USA, as it safe. But after reading this post, I am astonished and thinking should I got to USA. If USA is not safe. Then why should I got to USA. If someone can be killed and no one is to protect him or after murdered , USA can not give him justice. Protection is basic right, is not it? If superpower has that kind of satuation then, other countries should qoute example of USA like Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka.
I believe it's still very safe overall. The crime statistics are higher than most because there are generally large concentrations of insane crime rates; gang violence, poverty and so forth. But if you move to any normal play such as, say, Appleton Wisconsin, you're not gonna see any trouble.
Unless you're forming a large crowd for a controversial cause I guess. then the US is a bit of a gamble - But you could say the same anywhere in Europe or most the world, too. USA is just 10,000x more televised
Are you immigrants or American?
British - Never been to USA!
But I have many great American friends there who used to live & work with me