The brutal beheading attempt in N. Ireland and the wild Aftermath

Man, shit is going down in the UK, it's crazy. I hope my opinions here don't get me fired from a job 12 years from now.

In Northern Ireland, a middle-aged man was, on camera, stabbed, hacked, and semi-beheaded in the streets by a Sudanese migrant who arrived in the country 3 years ago. The footage is nightmareish as the migrant attempted to behead him, but things only get worse.

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This guy had only moved in a few days prior. The victim on the floor is said to have been helping them move in, though not confirmed.

The man was taken down eventually by some locals and arrested, but the victim remains in absolute horrific condition.

Confirmed reports announce that he has lost one eye completely, has been permanently blinded in the other, his nose has needed to be rebuilt, and his neck, from side to side, has needed to be stapled back together.

Currently in an induced coma, this man may be receiving a fate worse than death. He was disabled already, severely deaf and with learning difficulties. Back in 2001, he was given date rape drugs by some drug gang, and set on fire while sitting in his chair, unable to move.

This man has suffered every possible torment since the day he was born, and now this? It's beyond impossible to fathom.

Apparently he's no angel himself (hardly surprising), with an impressive 161 prior convictions, mostly non-violent petty things, although he did get convicted for slapping a woman a few years ago. Some people are using this to minimise the fact that he has been semi-beheaded, an incredible cope against... I don't know what.

The Aftermath

The following morning, I think three people were stabbed/killed in a school in Manchester, but this news has largely vanished, overwhelmed by the aftermath of this event. The Irish, not ones to go down quietly, basically exploded in the kind of fiery Irish rage they're so famous for.

It has understandably been met with excitement and horror, depending on your personal angle.


Angle 1

Enough is enough. There is only so many times people will sit and accept being brutalised, raped and murdered by outsiders who hate everything about us. We the people have voted time and time again for decades now against mass migration, and yet the government elites have consistently doubled down on it anyway. Blood is on their hands, not ours. When all peaceful options are exhausted, there's only one option left.

Violence.

And boy have we seen violence:

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Footage is constantly coming out as the riots have continued for a second or third day now. Schools closed, businesses shut, roads blockaded. The riots are overflowing to the mainland, too - the man was originally Scottish.

British people alive in the 60's are probably getting a lot of flashbacks at this point!

Angle 2

This is one rare criminal immigrant, a legal one, amongst a sea of hard working, honest migrants. Diversity is our strength and they contribute to our economy. Using one criminal, who has been arrested as they should be, to burn down peoples houses, cars, businesses and public infrastructure is far worse and akin to racist fascism.


I'll let you decide which angle to go with, but I do think those from Angle 2 are far too soft, have lived in peacetime for far too long, and have forgotten - or never experienced - what life is like outside their palace-like living standards.

I recently stumbled across footage of what's happening in Haiti and the Dominican Republic and my god, this kind of crime is a misdemeanour by comparison. I won't say too much but imagine the graphic footage of what a man pinned to the floor looks like as a sword enters slowly in various parts of the body, followed by a casual hammering of the skull until it becomes mush.

Now multiply that by enough numbers that it has become somewhat of a norm, and you start to wonder what 'outsiders' are capable of. The lives they have lived, even the ones who are victims of these horrible places, have only experienced that kind of world. To those in Sudan or Somalia or Pakistan or whatever, the idea of protecting one's family no matter the cost of outsiders - even if that means murdering them - is a moral good, a moral duty. Their warped religious beliefs double confirm that perspective.

When you dump them into a country who arrests people for writing mean things on social media, and sentence gang rapists to 5-10 years to 3 square meals a day, free living expenses and surrounded by fellow-minded friends, also known as prison, they simply don't see the punishment we're trying to lay down. They see opportunities.

It's extremely difficult to get into that mindset from our worldview. Just the idea of stabbing somebody in the face a single time is enough to give me nightmares. Just trying to conceptualize the feeling of the blade through flesh is horrific to me. And yet, these people do far worse, often with a smile on their face, casually mocking the victims, going home for dinner after the fact. Bragging about it.

Those English people who do similar crimes - and they do exist - are typically very disturbed individuals, those with severe trauma and really are outliers, isolated from all that is good in the world for countless years.

But in many parts of the world, this kind of thing is standard. That's life, get over it. If you have to decapitate somebody and post their lifeless head online for all to see to send a message to your rivals, then so be it.

I imagine they might even feel extremely restless living in a world where they just have to sit in a heated home applying for jobs while their rent gets paid for them. Spend the day sitting outside until the night comes again. What kind of life is that, to them?

My point is not to go too far one way or the other. I don't want any migration whatsoever from Sudan, Somalia, Pakistan, Algeria. I want zero. There's no purpose and no benefit. I don't care if there's some genius engineer from Somalia who can contribute to the national GDP. They can use their talent to improve their home country. I think it's moral questionable that we allow such brain drain from those other societies to benefit our own.

Those who are refugees can go to the nearest safe country, something that, unless France starts descending into revolutionary chaos again, will never be the UK.

That being said, I also don't think we should be removing all brown people regardless of any context.

But, I do understand that response from an increasing number of people. Everyone is angry, scared and upset. Almost every single day now there is some kind of horrific attack in some form or other. Attacks that never needed to happen, by people who never needed to be here.

We see time and time again these people, on video, bragging that they're coming to the UK to rape and pillage. People putting Instagram ads promoting the business of crossing to the UK illegally by boat to get to the many beautiful blonde girls among other things as a reward for getting on a boat and throwing your passport into the sea to pretend to be a refugee.

We see the 30-year old men claiming to be 17 (43% of those 6,400 migrant children assessed turned out to be adults!), we've seen the footage released of people in our public offices accepting payments to teach migrants to lie to get asylum, pretend to be gay or an atheist.

We see our major cities dominated by enclaves of foreign individuals, our children becoming a minority within the next 5-10 years, we see the high streets completely drowning in illegal businesses who sell illegal products, money laundering and even people trafficking, dodging taxes and more.

People are sick of it

Time and time again, Brits have been exposed to news story after news story of how the kindness, naivety and generosity, as well as our historical guilt, has been completely taken advantage of in every single corner of society. The polls show it, with Reform leading by about 10% ahead of either of the two main parties now.

It is perhaps the worst feeling, struggling to survive and pay taxes, live honestly and following all the rules, only to see these news stories - all of which above are BBC articles & a couple of government data pages - shoved in one's face every morning as you struggle to eat your dry toast breakfast and milk, the only breakfast you can afford.

Why bother paying for electricity when you can just steal a long cable and connect it to your neighbours house and use theirs? Why pay for wifi when you can just hack the neighbours password? Why go to work when you get even more prosperity by claiming benefits and do away with any financial responsibility? Why pay tax when you can just charge customers in cash and claim whatever income you like?

All these sneaky methods are common sense to people who were not born and raised taught to follow those rules, to consider the wellbeing of people with whom you are not familiar.

And then, when we wake up every morning and see a decapitation here, a gang rape there, and 500 more landing on the beaches cheering and laughing, it's just... so exhausting.

We are kind people, dangerously patient and forgiving, too. We have, time and time again, insisted that we don't mind foreign people as long as they play by our rules and contribute to society, assimilate.

But they have taken the piss, massively. And it's not even their fault most the time. MOST, as is often pointed out, are fine people. But the sheer numbers are overwhelming. Even if none of them were dishonest or otherwise bad, our services and infrastructure simply wasn't built to handle so many people. And the government just keep it going, keep the people flooding in, a desperate attempt to keep up fake GDP numbers (the more people = the higher GDP, regardless of the decline in wealth and Quality of Life).

They are taking the piss, and Northern Ireland's immune response is likely just a symptom of something far greater bubbling under the surface.

I think people are too scared of racism to say anything. Personally I think it's perfectly fine to say people from Somalia can be largely considered scum who contribute nothing to our society, even if there's a few nice ones in the mix. I think it's perfectly reasonable to simply block Somalia from any funding, any charity, and any immigration. At the same time, I think it's fine to say that Japanese and Koreans are almost guaranteed to be good and a value to the fabric of our society, while some places may have some bad apples but perhaps largely will consist of decent people; Turkey, Poland, USA, Ukraine, Malaysia. Still others might be a bit of a mixed bag that needs a bit more discussion and perhaps a more stringent process with immigration such as India and China, Brazil, Mexico.

We don't need to fear racism to point these things out and make some sensible immigration policies. We don't need to let people die out of fear of being racist, as is literally the case with the Manchester Arena Bombing and The Southport massacre of school girls.

I think we're seeing big changes. Labour government, for all their flaws, have cracked down on certain elements, pushed hard from the right to try to disarm their opponents. They've recently been working to reduce illegal immigration in various ways, implementing new laws to enable proper crackdowns on those high streets, among other things.

Meanwhile the right wing Reform party is being pushed even harder right by the Restore party to keep ahead of Labour throwing such red meat to the people.

There are, after all, only two outcomes.

  1. The pressure cooker valve is loosened and the pressure fizzles away as the government show real results into bringing the country back to common sense ruling policies

  2. The pressure increases, the walls start to buckle and collapse, and everything explodes in chaos and borderline civil war the likes of which hasn't been seen in centuries.

We're all hoping for option 1, but so far people are being left disappointed. As for the current ongoing riots, yeah, angle 1 and 2 are both valid to me, which makes me wholly unsettled. I don't want to see innocent people's houses smashed and burned down. Even a burnt car could be absolutely crippling to a family who can barely afford to get by. But at the same time, what else can you do when you have spent the last 20 years being ignored by those who rule over you?

Tough situation. I guess we can only watch and see how crazy things get over there. I have no idea what I wish for the victim of this latest crime. I can't imagine there's any positive result for him. Geeze.



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Absolutely nuts. I'm bloody glad I don't live there anymore and Jamie is currently finally getting round to his Aussie citizenship. To be fair, we're in the same heightened frenzy about immigration - as I've said before - and the leader of One Nation is already throwing out rhetoric about getting rid of migrants, and we're not sure whether that includes lovely proper British permanent residents. He'd hate to be sent back to the UK.

I don't care if there's some genius engineer from Somalia who can contribute to the national GDP.

Well... that's probably the only reason to let people in.

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we're in the same heightened frenzy about immigration

I'm a little on the fence about the same stuff in Aus, also Canada, USA. These are considered 'new world' countries which literally are nations of immigrants. The USA for example has a very strong identity based on the fact that anyone can be an American as long as they follow American values, and therefore they have a very strong culture built around 'Being American'.

I think this makes a profound difference on the way people think. If people in Ireland become 75% Polish, then the Irish rightly have a critical, existential crisis on their hands, their ancestral homeland being permanently lost.

But if all the Irish Americans in the USA leave and are replaced by Hispanics, then, well who honestly cares? Are the Hispanics good people, are they behaving in the way that's expected of them in the USA? Are they American, by that metric? Then whatever. I do find it weird when people say America is a WHITE country. Like... is it, though?

For Australia I'm not sure - maybe it's trapped somewhere in between?

Well... that's probably the only reason to let people in.

True, but if we can't properly put decent controls on these people, it's just too risky. We've already seen migrant healthcare workers turning out to be completely fraudulent (about 700/2000 from Nigeria), and deaths due to inability to communicate with foreign workers.

Boris Johnson tried to implement an Australia-style points based system, but he set the bar so low, we just got anyone who can be a basic minimum wage worker entering.

All of this racial tension would vanish if they just did a proper frickin' job. Easier said than done I guess. From here, Australia still does seem infinitely better so hide him in the basement if you have to!

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I don't know why but I guess I'm a bit comforted that it's not only my country that's going through severe insecurity and violence...

Just the idea of stabbing somebody in the face a single time is enough to give me nightmares

This was my reality a few years ago but nowadays we've seen a whole lot of violence that such acts of violence aren't unrealistic anymore and depending on the state, more probable than not...

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It does seem like there's been a global rise in... well, a kind of spreading or dispersal of dangerous people. Some of that is going to be social media but I mean there are things happening now that never ever happened before. Crime overall is down but certain types of crime are growing fast, everywhere. Scary times

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Scary times indeed..

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What a mess the world is in right now. We're experiencing the same kind of unchecked fraud and violence here in the the US. The authorities aren't even making arrests in a lot of cases and even when they do judges are letting the criminals off with unbelievably light sentences. We can't look the other way and deny what's going on any longer. I mainly blame the elected officials for allowing us to get to this point. It seems the people have finally reached their breaking point. I'm not against immigration when it's done properly. My ancestors came from England, Ukraine, and Germany. That wave of immigration kept their culture while at the same time being willing to assimilate into American society. That is the only way it works.

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America is one of THE places where immigration should work. Honestly I think it does kind of work there better than the UK precisely because it is a nation of immigrants and that was how it was 'raised', so to speak. But then yeah even with that in mind, it's the sheer rate of migration faster than anyone can adapt that just creates total havoc, and that is purely a failure of policy & corporate greed.

And then the only fix is to be an 'evil racist' by removing them, even though people just want to go back to proper governance and sensible border control. In the end, everybody loses.

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