RE: Strangers in My Land: Is There an Invasion By My Own Government?
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This is not new. I felt this threatened under the last administration, called a domestic terrorist. I was very afraid. I began serious prepping. Covid was your creature released.
We must, no matter which political party we are enthralled with (read enslaved), must all oppose the invasion by Federal agents into work places and public places, endangering others, to hunt for a certain demographic of humans like vermin. None of us should be tolerating this for what it actually is: Nazi tactics being carried out by our government and on our property. Just say no.
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I think back to the Whiskey Rebellion. https://www.history.com/articles/whiskey-rebellion. I think the first, large-scale popular rebellion against the federal government. It was a rebellion against taxes!! (I know that warms your heart😃). What does this incident teach? I don't know, but it is an interesting example of popular protest that had teeth.
Very interesting! The Federal government was trying to tax us right from the get go. I thought that all started later, although in this case they were taxing businesses, not individuals, and true to form to this day, the larger businesses got tax breaks. It seems this particular tax was levied in order to reimburse the states for money they'd spent on the revolutionary war, which was waged in large part (if the history we are taught in the government indoctrination camps is true) to oppose taxation! Washington assumed emergency powers in order to attack US citizens! This is a very interesting event in US history and shows that for all the pretty language, a central government is a central government and so plays by its own rules. Nothing stopping it but its own sense of morality. Thank you for providing the link.
You are welcome. I taught American history briefly and the Whiskey Rebellion is taught as the first instance of the federal government asserting its authority over popular resistance. It's exactly as you say. This was a turning point. The history of the country could have gone either way. If the federal government hadn't been able to stand up to popular rebellion, it (the government) would not have held together. If it had not held--if the country had fragmented into separate, individual factions, then foreign powers that were eager to take over would have come in. We would not have been a country. There would not be a USA today. However, in asserting that power, the government was on the path to taking away rights. I think that's one of the reasons people kept moving West. It wasn't always for land and opportunity. I think it was sometimes in search of a place where the government could not go.
And right from the start! My understanding has been that the States are nations, and the federal government was established for only two purposes: military might against enemies on behalf of all states, which makes some sense of the imposition of the tax. The states paid to defend the federation of states known as the united States. That federation suggest paying the States back, and taxes the citizens to do it!!!
Hello! I mean honestly this whole taxing thing has gotten grossly out of hand if you ask me. One of my daughters asked me why things had gotten so much more expensive to build of late (she's a carpenter) and I said "because every single little piece of that building is now taxed, every step along the way, and we the customers pay that price." Plus sales tax.
The US government is a rogue government, and has been for a very long time. The Whiskey rebellion shows the struggle right from the beginning. It's not Trump. He's a patsy, willing to go down in history as another Hitler, for his 15 minutes on the throne. We usher this crisis along by believing it is all his doing, but it is not. He's a tool, nothing more.
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I beg to differ. Again, my understanding is that the States were (still are actually) sovereign nations united by a central government that was supposed to have very limited power over the States, each state one nation under God all on its own. These states, that early in the game and having just won a war of independence without the help of central government, could have simply disbanded the still very young government and carried on pretty much as they had been not long before.
The united States is not a country. It's a federation of 50 smaller States, each one of those a nation of its own.
The United States, as I understand it, is comprised of DC, PR, Samoa, Guam etc.
OK that's it I have a long drive ahead of me, just me and my dog and all the stuff I take with me everywhere I do (this is some sort of sickness). Let me say that I know almost nothing about history, I appreciate hearing what you have to say about this.
But they did have the help of a central government.
Copying from the website The Boston Tea Party
The 13 states did unite under one central government, the Continental Congress. They came together as a unified entity, a national government. The war could not have been won if each state fought separately. As it was, the fact that our newly formed army beat the British was a miracle.
After the war the individual states were loathe to give up their independence. They formed a loose association called the Articles of Confederation. This form of government, however, proved to be too weak to deal with the matters of a unified country--commerce, defense, etc. That's when the decision was made to draft a new form of government, under a Constitution. This government would have greater powers over the states and individuals. Each one of the states had to ratify the new Constitution. Each state had to approve all the provisions of the Constitution. The original document, ratified by all the states, had seven Articles and ten Amendments (the Bill of Rights). So...originally, all the states agreed to the Constitution in that form and their association with the government was voluntary.
The Constitution we have today is not that original document. That document has been amended over the years and interpreted. Obviously, there are a lot of issues :)))