They're All Asses

It is mid-term election day in the US!

I am acting excited, but I don't really care, nor do I really understand how it all works. The US election system is a bit like that game "Bamboozled" that Joey hosts in Friends, where it is super complicated and utterly ridiculous, but Chandler and Ross were fully into it once they felt they understood it. And not only is it complicated, but there is so much room for doubt, that no matter the result, people will claim it was rigged, or stolen, or Oompa Loompas were voting twice.


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And if you are wondering why I am using a picture of a donkey and not an elephant, it is because I don't have a picture of an elephant that I have taken. I searched and searched, but I can't find one I took back in 2006 from the Adelaide zoo. However, since I am occasionally interested in learning about things, I discovered that both the Elephant and the Donkey symbols came from the same political cartoonist satirist, Thomas Nast. And since he was a satirist, both symbols were used to show stupidity, gullibility and confusion of the parties and respective supporters.

And both sides live up to the comparison.

So anyway, there are 435 house seats (all of them) up for election, and 35 senate seats. Why only 35 senate seats? Well, apparently only one third of them come up for voting each public election, in order to keep the government stable and running smoothly.

Working like a dream....

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It was funny that when I looked for what percentage vote in the mid-terms, the first hit was from AlJazeera, and since the graphic for the count was there and I could have it in dark mode easily, it gets used.

Right now people are voting in the US. Well, some people are voting, because the expected turnout for mid-terms is around 40% or maybe a bit more when Trump is there. It is about 60% for the presidential elections. Coming from Australia where voting is compulsory and also realising that our votes are largely meaningless, I still find it strange that so few vote in countries where they are so politically orientated. It feels like everyone in the US has an opinion, but voter turnout is lacklustre at best, even for president.

It would be interesting if it was compulsory voting in the US though, because that would mean there would be no benefit in designing polling stations in some areas to keep people from voting. Instead, it would be about doing it efficiently and accurately. But the more interesting thing with compulsory voting is, there would be that the campaigning would change too, since it wouldn't be there to convince people not to vote. And of course, if everyone had to vote, the true representations of different communities would be relevant. For instance, the massive Hispanic community in the US has about a 50% turnout in presidential elections. What happens if they all vote?

And speaking of campaigning, I was reading somewhere that because the Republican party raised a lot more money, they could spend more than the democrats on attack campaigns. I read that and though, hang on .... Shouldn't that be illegal?

Drink Coke, because Pepsi tastes like shit and they want to take your guns.

There are rules in advertising that stop these kinds of unprovable comparison claims, but they are allowed in political campaigns? Maybe, there should be a rule where a political party can only create advertisements that tell what their policies are and what they plan to do if they are elected. They can't mention the opposition at all, nor what the opposition is campaigning on. This is especially relevant now, where people live in digital compounds getting fed the content they want, which means that if for instance they are republican, they will get fed the worst views of the democrats, and republicans telling what the democrat policies are.

They want all children to transition, whether they want to or not.

As far as I can see, there are major flaws in all of the election processes globally, no matter which country. I think the entire system is broken, because people are voting for parties, not policies. A better system would be a weighted questionnaire that everyone fills out so that a collation of all views can be gathered and then, depending on what people want, professionals are picked for the roles, like in a company. They don't know each other to begin with, they have KPIs to keep them productive and measured, and every four years or so the people vote again based on their importance, and some who are doing a good job in the role might stay, those who are not or are no longer in an area that is needed, will go and be replaced. In this way, to affect who is there means affecting policy by influencing the people to change what is important to them.

And then of course, a flat tax system could be introduced where everyone pays the same percentage no matter what they earn, and each gets to allocate say 50% to begin with to the areas of society they deem important enough to support, while the government uses the other 50% for general running of healthcare, schools, infra etc, and defence - but they can't go to war with it. If they want to go to war, they will have to convince the people to choose to fund it with their allocation. No more war by using debt from future taxes.

Or something like that.

Nearly anything (other than what is currently happening) would be a better system than what we have around the world. And what we have is getting increasingly volatile, because the system is flawed and is easily corruptible, which means that it is becoming more corrupt, with money and power in the hands of less and less people, despite the population increasing.

Whatever happens in the US elections...

We are all still screwed.

Taraz
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There was a time in my short life as an adult when midterm elections didn't matter to me. I didn't even know they existed. Now I'm very interested in the result of this one, because perhaps, just perhaps, the entry of fuel here might ease a little. It may also be that we stay the same or worse

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I suspect that it doesn't matter who is there, they will find a way to take more money for themselves.

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Same story each every-four years

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This mid-term elections I voted for all Democratic representatives and senators, but I also voted for multiple initiatives and funny thing is that more than half of the initiatives I voted for were introduced by Republicans...

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Do you have a state gun??
I saw somewhere that this is a thing and Idaho was picking a gun :D

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Lol, never heard of such a thing as a state gun 😀 I think the gun I have was made in Germany...

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"While some states have designated official state firearms (such as Tennessee's Barrett M82 or Idaho's recently voted-on Winchester Model 1873), Washington has not adopted any such symbol"

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It is interesting that Trump is tweeting minute by minute

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I don't use twitter or whatever at all. Full of trash :D

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People often get caught up in political teams and start defending things they would criticize if the other side did them. Accountability should apply to everyone, regardless of party or ideology.

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people are voting for parties

I talk to people about this sometimes, it was a lot in my 20s when I started caring more (there was a period of time where I didn't care and didn't want to vote because literally all of them just suck and absolutely none of them are any good and it doesn't matter anyway because it's probably all rigged etc) but it is always amazing how hyperaddicted people are to a party (guess they feel like they "belong" somehow, especially given the butthurt when things didn't work out how they want because of the outright REFUSAL when you point to them on the party's own website or from their own candidates nonetheless when their policies don't align even when it's extremely blatantly obvious) or to a person (trying to again explain a policy mismatch I could see with a friend and the party they indicated they were going to vote for but all they were hyperfixated on was that the candidate in their area "did good things" and nothing else was even registering).

On taxes I remember another conversation I kind of partly paid attention to but didn't really participate in was the idea of dropping income tax completely and possibly raising other taxes slightly to compensate which may if nothing else stop the ridiculously high income earners who can pay accountants to make it look like they never have any income at all. Maybe.

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We are all blinded by our preferences. We end up discounting alternatives because they don't meet our world view expectations and supporting what we are familiar with, even when they are in conflict with what we say we believe. Habit and feeling overpower logic.

Dropping income taxes completely might be a double edged sword if the rest of the economy remains the same. What would also have to happen is that companies are taxed fully, and locally.

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Corporations as we know them today are entirely creations of government. Tax them. Government is a creation of the people. Don't tax us. Simple as.

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I agree with you. Not only should the government tax them, but people should be getting stake in all of the companies and dividends paid to them. The better the markets do, the better all people do. That would mean no more milking people to benefit the rich only.

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I see why you would say that, but I disagree with the idea that governments need to provide dividends and other benefits. I want it to wither away.

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governments shouldn't - all business should. It would effectively get rid of most of the need for government, pushing it back to what it is meant to be, an organisation to make decisions for the people at scale.

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I'd be willing to compromise with having a state so small it little matters who holds office

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B...b...but...that would be stifling innovation and businesses will just go elsewhere and everyone will lose jobs and the trickle down economy won't be able to work D:

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Very much the case!

Aren't they supposed to be and there's just loopholes that are used to avoid that?

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I think one of the biggest problems in politics is that people are often more loyal to their political party than to their principles and beliefs. Instead of questioning their leaders, they defend them almost like football fans. I also agree that focusing on policies and programs instead of personalities can make political discussions more meaningful. Your picture of the donkey reminded me of one of my paintings; if I can find the file, I’ll post it below your post.

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people are often more loyal to their political party than to their principles and beliefs.

I suspect most people don't know a fraction of the actual policies of their parties and build their support on fragments.

Your picture of the donkey reminded me of one of my paintings; if I can find the file, I’ll post it below your post.

Sounds good :)

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I actually tried to go a bit outside the box this election and I think I voted for more third party candidates than I have in the past. Despite the way it all worked out, I don't think much is going to change. Now the left is going to go all in on going after Trump, and while that is important, I don't think it is more important than taking care of all the issues that got them elected in the first place.

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Maybe it does make a difference. Not for what actually happens after, but perhaps more people have chosen like you and are recognising that something has to change in the way it operates.

Now the left is going to go all in on going after Trump,

Definitely not the time to do this. End the wars in Iran and Ukraine (and stop supporting Russia) first.

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Yeah, I hope they can get the big stuff fixed first, then they can start focusing on the corruption. Not that corruption isn't a big deal, but yeah.

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Two years left in his term, right? Put pressure on him to do the right thing, rather than trying to get rid of him a bit early. Perhaps he will have a heart attack with enough stress.

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He seems to be the kind of person to dig in deeper versus flipping and doing the right thing. The guy in Texas that won said the Democrats need to not see this as an opportunity for political retribution and do what they promised voters that got them elected in the first place. I think that sums it up really well.

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So, this result is a big deal. I do not know how much impact you will see internationally. But at my home state of Texas, I will see real change on Jan 20, Gina Hinojosa's first day at office.

One of her main campaign promise was to stop de-funding of public school system which was championed by previous Governor and crook named Greg Abbott. I have two kids in school and we are losing teachers at a constant rate for the last two years.

We have thrown significant money and time at the campaign and the result is satisfactory.

https://ginafortexas.com/priority/save-texas-public-schools/

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Texas is a big change - first Dem in 30+ years, right? It is going to get interesting perhaps, since a lot of the tech people moved there to avoid taxes.

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Yes, 1998. But it is bigger on the ground here. Many of us who live here are have kids uses public schools it is very sad to see Greg Abbott dismantle the public school system.

Now it is okays to share as Abbott can never be the governor again.

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