Trump's Immigrant Agenda
For better or worse, Donald Trump seems hell-bent on keeping a lot of his campaign promises. On one hand, I applaud his pardons, especially Ross Ulbricht, but also the January 6th protesters, many of whom have been in legal limbo for 4 years. What 6th amendment? On the other hand, his obsession with illegal immigration should be cause for concern for everyone. Here is a brief overview of my thoughts on several related sub-topics regarding immigration, crime, and liberty.
Constitutionality
The Constitution of the United States says little about immigration. Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 mentions "To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization" among the enumerated powers of Congress. Article One, Section 9, Clause 1 allows future prohibition of slave importation. That's it.
The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1, begins, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." This was part of the Reconstruction era incorporation of former slaves into the populace with legal definitions, and is now at the core of the birthright citizenship debate surrounding immigration.
In short, a pregnant foreigner who gives birth on American soil has birthed an American citizen. Trump is attempting to over-rule this Constitutional provision to fight what some term anchor babies. In Republican circles, this concept is one of the foundational concerns regarding immigration because of the potential tax burdens imposed by people perceived as adding to burden of a welfare state already laden with unfunded liabilities.
History
The US has had varying levels of immigration restrictions, and varying border enforcement compared to seafaring immigrants. As I understand it, the American southwest has tended toward a porous border until about a century ago, and laborers migrated freely.
The US/Canada border crossing only required valid ID to cross until after the September 11th attacks of 2001, and only fully implemented to require passports or other special ID in 2009.
Prior to World War I, there were also few instances where any international travel required passports or visas. I would argue real racism was often more of an issue at those times than at present, too.
It's fair to question whether the increasing demands for "papers please, citizen" has improved safety or helped prevent criminal activity.
Crime
The laziest complaint is that illegal immigration is criminal because it is illegal. Legality has no inherent moral or rational authority. As I have doubtless written before, slavery was legal and the Underground Railroad helping people flee slavery was illegal. The dictates of politicians are no foundation for right and wrong.
A real concern along the US/ Mexico border is the drug trade. There is no denying the violence inherent in Mexican drug cartels or the risks of black market goods. However, placing the focus on smugglers overlooks the root cause. A century ago, bootleggers and Baptists were perversely united in supporting alcohol prohibition, the former earning obscene profits on the artificially-created black market, and the latter puritanical control freaks feeling like they could sanctify society. Today, cartels and congresscritters are similarly united in supporting the drug war.
Addiction is a terrible thing, but vices are not crimes, and prohibition creates new problems which would not otherwise exist. Complaints about smuggling deflects criticism from where it truly belongs.
"Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in his search after his own happiness. Unlike crimes, they imply no malice toward others, and no interference with their persons or property.
"In vices, the very essence of crime—that is, the design to injure the person or property of another—is wanting."
—Lysander Spooner, Vices Are Not Crimes (1875)
However, it is also important to mention human trafficking as the third major criminal concern. Unlike narcotics, which are an inanimate object, smuggling people for labor or sex is certainly criminal. I do not know the degree, but modern slavery arguably remains a problem here in 2025. Simplifying or removing the process for legal migrant labor would make inroads on one concern, but other forms of human trafficking would require serious border patrols and enforcement.
Fortunately, real progress could be achieved by ending federal drug prohibition, simplifying naturalization, and eliminating most restrictions on migrants and tourists altogether would free up resources to handle real crimes. Unfortunately, I doubt Trump has enough libertarian advisors to encourage him to pursue this kind of policy.
Further concerns
I wrote a post back in 2017, originally on the old blockchain. I've already expanded on a few of its points above, but I'll copy in the remainder here as well, with some revisions.
Jobs are given by employers. Jobs belong to employers to give as they see fit. If you can't compete with an immigrant, your job was not stolen. It was given to someone else by the employer who owns the job and the right to employ whoever he sees fit. This is not fundamentally different from the employer hiring anyone else instead. If you can't compete with an immigrant who perhaps can't even speak English, maybe you are bad at your job. No one owes you employment. You need to earn it.
Of course, the economy is a mess, and government intervention at every level has created a lot of chaos, but blaming immigrants is incredibly misguided. Blame your congresscritters, the presidents, the faceless appointed bureaucrats, and the coproaches who protect them while enforcing their dictates.
They steal our money and ship it abroad!
The money sent elsewhere is not stolen, it was earned. The money was given to them in exchange for work. That work has value you do not see in your hasty analysis because money is only one side of the equation. Both parties benefit in any voluntary exchange. The worker values the money over the labor. The employer values the labor over the money. Wealth was created for both parties.
You can even go full Keynesian here and argue that the money will be circulated back to the US in exchange for more goods and services eventually. Wealth will be created again at some point when the dollars return to the US in more exchanges later.
Welfare, school, and medical care are stealing from us!
Welfare is theft by the government. When A robs B and gives to C, A is the thief. Not C. Whether C was born in the US, Mexico, or anywhere else is utterly irrelevant. Again, blame your congresscritters, the presidents, the faceless appointed bureaucrats, and the coproaches who protect them while enforcing their dictates.
Morality
Almost a year ago, I wrote a post entitled, How Should Christians View the Immigration Debate? I quoted several passages from the Old and New Testaments discussing how God commands His followers to treat foreigners. Some of the most vitriolic anti-immigrant rhetoric I have heard comes from self-professed Christians who seem to have forgotten their duties as followers of a new King.
In May of last year, I also wrote a follow-up which again covered many of the basic issues discussed here from a more secular standpoint. I feel like a broken record at times, but so do the folks cheering Trump, so I hope turnabout is fair play. In addition to the "it's wrong because it's illegal" and black market activity, I tried to address additional concerns I have seen from folks regarding nationalism and culture, abridged below.
Borders matter because national sovereignty matters
Even if I accepted the premise of national sovereignty in the first place, this remains an unsupported assertion. Are strong borders and stringent immigration or trade controls really essential to national sovereignty?
Additionally, many "illegal immigrants" are people who entered the country legally and just failed to leave when their visas expired. Why is government permission to travel necessary in the first place, and why is staying after some papers expired criminal? How is this existence without permission a threat to anything but the egos of authoritarians?
Illegal immigrants are manipulating politics
Undocumented immigrants cannot legally vote. To be fair, I also reject the legitimacy of all elections, but I do acknowledge the escalating concerns with each election cycle that something fishy might be going on.
Maybe Democrat posturing as "pro-immigrant" gets some favor, but if Republicans would stop talking like xenophobic nationalists and start welcoming immigrants while advocating for real naturalization reform, they wouldn't need to fear immigrants. Immigrants who want to earn a better living for themselves are likely to be aligned with a lot of "conservative values," too.
Culture
Lastly, many complaints I hear about immigrants consist of "X people are moving here," and "They have a different culture." I live in a region inundated by Californian immigrants, and this has accelerated over the past few years. This has had a detrimental impact on the local economy and culture. They aren't assimilating. They want to impose their politics on the locals. But they're already Americans, so it's totally OK, right?
Here, I recognize that any mass movement of people can be disruptive, and the US is hardly a homogeneous cultural whole. However, I argue that focusing on nationalism or nationality or race misses the point, and citing such concerns as justification for making innocent people into "criminals" is deeply unjust.
Conclusion?
I know my arguments are well outside the usual left/right paradigm, and my position of radical libertarianism likely rubs folks the wrong way, but I am here because I challenged my preconceptions. Feel free to challenge my arguments here, but challenge your own as well. Meanwhile, beware the Trump immigrant agenda with its jingoistic xenophobia undertones.
While it is individuals that have rights and sovereignty, and that alone is the source of national sovereignty, because nations, or any other institution has no other rights or power not possessed by those that effect it, that collective agreement a nation owning a geographic region does have the right to allow entry to some and refuse it to others.
Just like you do your house, for the same reasons.
It is obvious that polities have always and continue to exceed their lawful and just powers. That is the problem. Just as you don't have to allow people to shoot up in your house, AZ doesn't have to allow people to shoot up in Tucson. That doesn't mean you have the right to chase people down elsewhere and do anything to harm them if they choose to shoot up, as you correctly observe.
It is necessary to correctly limit our claims of rights and power over others, and this is the actual problem of tyranny.
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What is the nature of your alleged "collective agreement," and where is the transfer of individual sovereignty to national sovereignty? You acknowledge that politics exceeds lawful and just powers. What are these lawful and just powers, and how can politics remain legitimate when those powers are exceeded?
I do have the right to forbid drug use on my property, as you stated, but I also have the right to permit it. How can government override this?
Government operates entirely through usurped claims of rights and powers over others, and has zero legitimacy because it can only be tyrannical. The difference between governments are only in scale, not kind.
Every institution is no more than an agreement of it's members. Government particularly so. I assert there is no transfer of sovereignty at all, and any supposition that polities have sovereignty above and beyond that of the individuals that comprise them is entirely fallacious.
The rights of individual persons are the only rights they can effect - the only rights that exist - and such agreements as they undertake amongst themselves have no additional rights than those of the individuals that undertake them.
As you just stated, that statement is not accurate. Government mostly acts to effect your personal rights, and those of your compatriots, in mutual agreeement to do many things you and your compatriots seek to do. However, in many - far too many - ways, governments assume rights and powers they do not have, and we do not have, and in those ways commit many tyrannies onerous to free people, individually and collectively. We each of us weigh our options. Should we put our lives, treasure, and honor on the line and actively oppose those transgressions, or is it better and more profitable to us to tolerate those abuses and benefit from the prosecution of our rights and authority to build roads, fund benefits, and effect policies internationally that such opposition would impede? This calculus is carefully designed by would be despots, profiteers, and outright criminals to fall short of action on our parts, again, all too often.
I do agree that corruption inevitably perverts government from our intention to mutually further our collective purposes, and eventually becomes tyrannical. It is the flaw of centralization that corruption usurps our actual rights and authorities to do so. It is the blessing of the Creator of the universe that today decentralization of the means of production is the leading edge of tech advance across all fields of industry, and will increasingly do so going forward. Because of this fact of physics, polities will inevitably decline and become irrelevant. Individuals will resume effecting their rights and authority in agreement with one another, and institutions will become obsolete and fail to be continued in due time. Whatever the challenge facing humanity today, freedom will eventually provide the means to surmount it, because the laws of physics mandate that decentralization outcompetes centralized mechanisms.
Economics will eventually become unable to be ignored. It will not happen easily, peacefully, or without being abused with every means potential, but greater benefit from taking action will eventually impel the actors, we the people, to act accordingly and best profit from our acts.
You're just repeating your assertion that there is some kind of mutual agreement as the basis for government. Where is this mutual agreement? How does government act to effect my personal rights when no such authority has been asked or granted? It is just assumed, or usurped, by the political class. There is no divine grant of authority, and democracy cannot confer authority.
Are you contending that we, you and I, do not agree with our neighbors to assure our neighborhoods are in good order?
Do we? Some people live in HOAs, and those can even be abusive. Even that little power draws the corrupt. Whether in an HOA or not, we probably actually know our neighbors, and there is actual discussion and mutual consent. Do these actual agreement between people somehow translate to legitimizing government?
There is a massive missing link in your chain of reasoning, particularly when it does not matter if my neighbors disagree with something like whether I drink beer, smoke a joint, or even shoot up heroin if I do not violate their lives, liberty, or property.
Believe me, I know the high school civics arguments about government. I'm questioning the validity of those arguments and the reasoning behind them. How do we get from "I need to coexist peacefully with my neighbors" to "government gets to extort, kidnap, or murder them if they fail to abide by arbitrary laws against non-crimes none of us agreed to in the first place"?
It does not have those rights, because we do not have those rights.
We agree that government is corrupt. Do not think I claim any of those things are lawful government.
However, we both have the right to agree with our neighbors to create an HOA, and decide that only plastic palm trees can stand in our yards. It's stupid, ugly, and would lower our property values, but within our rights to govern ourselves by that rule.
That is what government has rights to do, not rape, rob, and murder people that shoot crack into their eyeballs. Other than such lawful and just agreements we might undertake with our neighbors, there is no just government.
Do we have the authority to impose arbitrary rules on our neighbors, or is this also usurpation? You simply assert we can. Why? Why can no one opt out of even an HOA if it becomes tyrannical?
If all of my neighbors decide they want an HOA, but I dissent, do they have the right to impose it upon my property?
In an HOA, what makes the majority opinion in how to administer it correct, and why is the minority compelled to obey?
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I have very clearly said we have authority over ourselves, and in agreement. I have never intimated any other thing. I have instead pointed out that governments claim authority they do not have. HOA's included.
I also vehemently disagree that democracy isn't tyranny of the majority of voters - which is never a majority of the population, in living memory. Just because three of my neighbors tell me to cut my grass doesn't mean I have to - unless I have contractually agreed to abide by majority decisions regarding the length of my grass - which a lot of people do when they buy property in HOA's, to their regret.
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This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
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We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
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Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working
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https://hive.blog/hive/@trumpman/re-azircon-spk05h
Bad downvotes on Hive are a growing concern that must be addressed. These downvotes not only discourage users from sharing their real thoughts and ideas but also damage the community as a whole, we see many walk away
We're disappointed to see that our work is still being downvoted despite the valuable insights and information we provide
https://hive.blog/hive/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-spolvn
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
The Need for Change
We've been having heated discussions on Hive, and off Hive it's time to set the record straight. The Buildawhale scam farm has been exposed, and it's time for them to face the consequences.
Concerns about Downvotes on Hive
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
https://peakd.com/@elmerlin/activities
Exploring the Possibilities of AI Art with Bilpcoin NFTs Episode 97 BUILDAWHALE SCAM FARM ON #HIVE
Art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI we take great pride in our work
IF YOU WANT MORE FREEDOM JOIN BLURT STEEMIT AND THE TON BLOCKCHAIN
Bilpcoin poly
Bilpcon Crypto Talk
Trending page on Hive voting circles and gangs
What is Bilpcoin What is BPC
Exploring the Supply of BPC: Total Supply, Circulating Supply, Burned, and Staked BPC STATS March 14 2023 Bilpcoin
Exploring the Supply of BPC: Total Supply, Circulating Supply, Burned, and Staked BPC STATS FEB 19 2023 Bilpcoin
https://peakd.com/hive-164833/@bilpcoinbpc/you-have-all-witnessed-this-account-being-downvoted-to-a-negative-reputation-for-no-reason
https://blurt.blog/@bilpcoinbpc
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/our-response-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/problems
Find links to why we was downvoted on Hive
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/those-who-are-dedicated-to-the-cause-of-freedom-and-decentralization-lets-fight-for-good
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/our-goal-is-to-transform-hive-into-a-more-inclusive-space-similar-to-the-user-friendly-atmospheres-of-blurt-and-steemit
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/by-standing-together-we-can-create-a-more-inclusive-and-fair-environment-on-hive-as-we-see-on-blurt-and-steemit-we-need-to-get-r
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/those-who-are-dedicated-to-the-cause-of-freedom-and-decentralization-lets-fight-for-good
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/actions-indeed-speak-louder-than-words-a-fact-weve-all-observed-individuals-may-talk-a-good-game-a-whole-lot-of-shit-but-their-
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/reply-2-crimsonclad-you-may-consider-yourself-clever
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/reply-to-crimsonclad
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/consider-revising-the-value-plan-as-it-s-not-providing-significant-benefits-to-hive
73,585.851 HP
(2,301,627.566 HP)
A power down is scheduled to happen in 7 days (~7,291.521 HIVE, remaining 6 weeks)
@BUILDAWHALE Received: 2,301,628 HP
blocktrades 2,301,575 HP
@nwjordan 24 HP
@gillianlienmap 23 HP
@epicgames
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/its-been-observed-by-many-that-you-have-not-respected-boundaries-you-have-abused-others-and-caused-distress-to-others-you-might
On HIVE when you cease your actions, we will too. If not, we will continue to advocate and share the truth you may believe you're aware of our accounts, but you're mistaken LOL Accounts are cheap and cost nothing to create a new account
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/let-s-delve-into-the-builda-whale-farm-on-the-hive-gogreenbuddy-who-is-also-colloquially-known-as-the-marky-mark-usainvote
https://steemit.com/@bilpcoinbpc/posts
Hive Emergency: A Call to Action STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES
We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.
This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.
We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish
The Bilpcoin team were attacked by Themarkymark gang so, we started investigating and gathering evidence, and before long, we had a whole list of scammers and abusers. And let me tell you, it was a doozy
We are like the superheroes of Hive LOL night night Buildawhale scam farm
Merry Christmas, Hive community! We're excited to share some amazing Santa Claus art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI
As we approach the end of the year, the Bilpcoin team would like to extend their warmest wishes to everyone happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year
The Bilpcoin team is shifting its focus towards creating more in-depth content, aiming for less frequent but higher quality posts, potentially once or twice a day
We're ending the day with a bang - introducing two more crazy Santa designs: one happy drunk and one smoking
Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-sp2q9h
Don't let the enthusiasm of friends or family members cloud your judgment – crypto is a game where there will always be winners and losers
WE EXPOSED A SUPER FARM ON HIVE
Super farm https://peakd.com/@memesandstuff/wallet spam scam accounts
https://hive.blog/hive-121566/@louis88/re-slobberchops-sp4a2y
At Bilpcoin, we're passionate about what we do, and we're committed to helping our community thrive. If any tribes or individuals need assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out, and we'll do our best to help. We believe in the power of community
https://hive.blog/hive-140217/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sp87n1
themarkymark (80)in LeoFinance 18 hours ago You are the abuse on Hive hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-smp740 LOL TRANSACTIONS DON'T LIE PEOPLE DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO Curation reward for BUILDAWHALE COMMENT FARM buildawhale51.108 HP
When investing, we want to emphasize the importance of diversification. It's essential to spread your investments across different assets to minimize risk and maximize returns
https://hive.blog/@kevm/comments
https://hive.blog/@kcgm/comments
Posted using Bilpcoin
https://hive.blog/hive/@trumpman/re-azircon-spk05h
Bad downvotes on Hive are a growing concern that must be addressed. These downvotes not only discourage users from sharing their real thoughts and ideas but also damage the community as a whole, we see many walk away
We're disappointed to see that our work is still being downvoted despite the valuable insights and information we provide
https://hive.blog/hive/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-spolvn
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
The Need for Change
We've been having heated discussions on Hive, and off Hive it's time to set the record straight. The Buildawhale scam farm has been exposed, and it's time for them to face the consequences.
Concerns about Downvotes on Hive
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
https://peakd.com/@elmerlin/activities
Exploring the Possibilities of AI Art with Bilpcoin NFTs Episode 97 BUILDAWHALE SCAM FARM ON #HIVE
Art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI we take great pride in our work
IF YOU WANT MORE FREEDOM JOIN BLURT STEEMIT AND THE TON BLOCKCHAIN
Bilpcoin poly
Bilpcon Crypto Talk
Trending page on Hive voting circles and gangs
What is Bilpcoin What is BPC
Exploring the Supply of BPC: Total Supply, Circulating Supply, Burned, and Staked BPC STATS March 14 2023 Bilpcoin
Exploring the Supply of BPC: Total Supply, Circulating Supply, Burned, and Staked BPC STATS FEB 19 2023 Bilpcoin
https://peakd.com/hive-164833/@bilpcoinbpc/you-have-all-witnessed-this-account-being-downvoted-to-a-negative-reputation-for-no-reason
https://blurt.blog/@bilpcoinbpc
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/our-response-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/problems
Find links to why we was downvoted on Hive
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/those-who-are-dedicated-to-the-cause-of-freedom-and-decentralization-lets-fight-for-good
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/our-goal-is-to-transform-hive-into-a-more-inclusive-space-similar-to-the-user-friendly-atmospheres-of-blurt-and-steemit
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/by-standing-together-we-can-create-a-more-inclusive-and-fair-environment-on-hive-as-we-see-on-blurt-and-steemit-we-need-to-get-r
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/those-who-are-dedicated-to-the-cause-of-freedom-and-decentralization-lets-fight-for-good
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/actions-indeed-speak-louder-than-words-a-fact-weve-all-observed-individuals-may-talk-a-good-game-a-whole-lot-of-shit-but-their-
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/reply-2-crimsonclad-you-may-consider-yourself-clever
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/reply-to-crimsonclad
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/consider-revising-the-value-plan-as-it-s-not-providing-significant-benefits-to-hive
73,585.851 HP
(2,301,627.566 HP)
A power down is scheduled to happen in 7 days (~7,291.521 HIVE, remaining 6 weeks)
@BUILDAWHALE Received: 2,301,628 HP
blocktrades 2,301,575 HP
@nwjordan 24 HP
@gillianlienmap 23 HP
@epicgames
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/its-been-observed-by-many-that-you-have-not-respected-boundaries-you-have-abused-others-and-caused-distress-to-others-you-might
On HIVE when you cease your actions, we will too. If not, we will continue to advocate and share the truth you may believe you're aware of our accounts, but you're mistaken LOL Accounts are cheap and cost nothing to create a new account
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/let-s-delve-into-the-builda-whale-farm-on-the-hive-gogreenbuddy-who-is-also-colloquially-known-as-the-marky-mark-usainvote
https://steemit.com/@bilpcoinbpc/posts
Hive Emergency: A Call to Action STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES
We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.
This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.
We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish
The Bilpcoin team were attacked by Themarkymark gang so, we started investigating and gathering evidence, and before long, we had a whole list of scammers and abusers. And let me tell you, it was a doozy
We are like the superheroes of Hive LOL night night Buildawhale scam farm
Merry Christmas, Hive community! We're excited to share some amazing Santa Claus art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI
As we approach the end of the year, the Bilpcoin team would like to extend their warmest wishes to everyone happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year
The Bilpcoin team is shifting its focus towards creating more in-depth content, aiming for less frequent but higher quality posts, potentially once or twice a day
We're ending the day with a bang - introducing two more crazy Santa designs: one happy drunk and one smoking
Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-sp2q9h
Don't let the enthusiasm of friends or family members cloud your judgment – crypto is a game where there will always be winners and losers
WE EXPOSED A SUPER FARM ON HIVE
Super farm https://peakd.com/@memesandstuff/wallet spam scam accounts
https://hive.blog/hive-121566/@louis88/re-slobberchops-sp4a2y
At Bilpcoin, we're passionate about what we do, and we're committed to helping our community thrive. If any tribes or individuals need assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out, and we'll do our best to help. We believe in the power of community
https://hive.blog/hive-140217/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sp87n1
themarkymark (80)in LeoFinance 18 hours ago You are the abuse on Hive hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-smp740 LOL TRANSACTIONS DON'T LIE PEOPLE DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO Curation reward for BUILDAWHALE COMMENT FARM buildawhale51.108 HP
When investing, we want to emphasize the importance of diversification. It's essential to spread your investments across different assets to minimize risk and maximize returns
https://hive.blog/@kevm/comments
https://hive.blog/@kcgm/comments
Posted using Bilpcoin
https://hive.blog/hive/@trumpman/re-azircon-spk05h
Bad downvotes on Hive are a growing concern that must be addressed. These downvotes not only discourage users from sharing their real thoughts and ideas but also damage the community as a whole, we see many walk away
We're disappointed to see that our work is still being downvoted despite the valuable insights and information we provide
https://hive.blog/hive/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-spolvn
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
The Need for Change
We've been having heated discussions on Hive, and off Hive it's time to set the record straight. The Buildawhale scam farm has been exposed, and it's time for them to face the consequences.
Concerns about Downvotes on Hive
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
https://peakd.com/@elmerlin/activities
Unrelated to this particular post, but since I was sifting through posts, perhaps thematicly aligned. Did you order a gold pan and perhaps a small sluice?
THe sluice might not be appropriate if you are only going to be in gold bearing lands for a few days.
Posted using Political Hive
I don't think a sluice will fit my scale of casual prospecting. I checked at the local hardware store for gold pans, and while they did have the classic tin ones, they didn't have the more modern green plastic designed to make the flakes easier to see. I know of a store that does, but I haven't been by there since that post.
When you get in gold-bearing lands there will be probably be green pans in the hardware stores in that area. I'm thinking this spring I'll head up to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwharrie_National_Forest and pan one day when the weather is nice. It looks like it's only about 2 hours drive from the house.
Most of this fellow videos are shot in or around Uwharrie
I watch very little YouTube content now - but gold panning videos are relaxing content - it may be the nature and the babbling brooks.
!SLOTH
Odds are I won't make it that far east any time soon on my road trip, but I would like to see the Appalachian Mountains and hike some of the Appalachian Trail. Who knows? Maybe our paths will cross.
Well if it looks like you make it down I-95 let us know and well buy you lunch or dinner!
Exploring the Possibilities of AI Art with Bilpcoin NFTs Episode 97 BUILDAWHALE SCAM FARM ON #HIVE
Art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI we take great pride in our work
IF YOU WANT MORE FREEDOM JOIN BLURT STEEMIT AND THE TON BLOCKCHAIN
Bilpcoin poly
Bilpcon Crypto Talk
Trending page on Hive voting circles and gangs
What is Bilpcoin What is BPC
Exploring the Supply of BPC: Total Supply, Circulating Supply, Burned, and Staked BPC STATS March 14 2023 Bilpcoin
Exploring the Supply of BPC: Total Supply, Circulating Supply, Burned, and Staked BPC STATS FEB 19 2023 Bilpcoin
https://peakd.com/hive-164833/@bilpcoinbpc/you-have-all-witnessed-this-account-being-downvoted-to-a-negative-reputation-for-no-reason
https://blurt.blog/@bilpcoinbpc
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/our-response-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/problems
Find links to why we was downvoted on Hive
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/those-who-are-dedicated-to-the-cause-of-freedom-and-decentralization-lets-fight-for-good
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/our-goal-is-to-transform-hive-into-a-more-inclusive-space-similar-to-the-user-friendly-atmospheres-of-blurt-and-steemit
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/by-standing-together-we-can-create-a-more-inclusive-and-fair-environment-on-hive-as-we-see-on-blurt-and-steemit-we-need-to-get-r
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/those-who-are-dedicated-to-the-cause-of-freedom-and-decentralization-lets-fight-for-good
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/actions-indeed-speak-louder-than-words-a-fact-weve-all-observed-individuals-may-talk-a-good-game-a-whole-lot-of-shit-but-their-
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/reply-2-crimsonclad-you-may-consider-yourself-clever
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/reply-to-crimsonclad
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/consider-revising-the-value-plan-as-it-s-not-providing-significant-benefits-to-hive
73,585.851 HP
(2,301,627.566 HP)
A power down is scheduled to happen in 7 days (~7,291.521 HIVE, remaining 6 weeks)
@BUILDAWHALE Received: 2,301,628 HP
blocktrades 2,301,575 HP
@nwjordan 24 HP
@gillianlienmap 23 HP
@epicgames
https://peakd.com/@buildawhale/wallet
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/its-been-observed-by-many-that-you-have-not-respected-boundaries-you-have-abused-others-and-caused-distress-to-others-you-might
On HIVE when you cease your actions, we will too. If not, we will continue to advocate and share the truth you may believe you're aware of our accounts, but you're mistaken LOL Accounts are cheap and cost nothing to create a new account
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/let-s-delve-into-the-builda-whale-farm-on-the-hive-gogreenbuddy-who-is-also-colloquially-known-as-the-marky-mark-usainvote
https://steemit.com/@bilpcoinbpc/posts
Hive Emergency: A Call to Action STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES
We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.
This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.
We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish
The Bilpcoin team were attacked by Themarkymark gang so, we started investigating and gathering evidence, and before long, we had a whole list of scammers and abusers. And let me tell you, it was a doozy
We are like the superheroes of Hive LOL night night Buildawhale scam farm
Merry Christmas, Hive community! We're excited to share some amazing Santa Claus art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI
As we approach the end of the year, the Bilpcoin team would like to extend their warmest wishes to everyone happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year
The Bilpcoin team is shifting its focus towards creating more in-depth content, aiming for less frequent but higher quality posts, potentially once or twice a day
We're ending the day with a bang - introducing two more crazy Santa designs: one happy drunk and one smoking
Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-sp2q9h
Don't let the enthusiasm of friends or family members cloud your judgment – crypto is a game where there will always be winners and losers
WE EXPOSED A SUPER FARM ON HIVE
Super farm https://peakd.com/@memesandstuff/wallet spam scam accounts
https://hive.blog/hive-121566/@louis88/re-slobberchops-sp4a2y
At Bilpcoin, we're passionate about what we do, and we're committed to helping our community thrive. If any tribes or individuals need assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out, and we'll do our best to help. We believe in the power of community
https://hive.blog/hive-140217/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sp87n1
themarkymark (80)in LeoFinance 18 hours ago You are the abuse on Hive hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-smp740 LOL TRANSACTIONS DON'T LIE PEOPLE DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO Curation reward for BUILDAWHALE COMMENT FARM buildawhale51.108 HP
When investing, we want to emphasize the importance of diversification. It's essential to spread your investments across different assets to minimize risk and maximize returns
https://hive.blog/@kevm/comments
https://hive.blog/@kcgm/comments
Posted using Bilpcoin
https://hive.blog/hive/@trumpman/re-azircon-spk05h
Bad downvotes on Hive are a growing concern that must be addressed. These downvotes not only discourage users from sharing their real thoughts and ideas but also damage the community as a whole, we see many walk away
We're disappointed to see that our work is still being downvoted despite the valuable insights and information we provide
https://hive.blog/hive/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-spolvn
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
The Need for Change
We've been having heated discussions on Hive, and off Hive it's time to set the record straight. The Buildawhale scam farm has been exposed, and it's time for them to face the consequences.
Concerns about Downvotes on Hive
Withdraw vesting from @buildawhale to @ipromote7318.996 HIVE Sep 21, 2024 Sent to alpha-4,573.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Withdraw vesting from @stemgeeks to @ipromote4.970 HIVE Sep 20, 2024 Sent to hiveswap-5,000.000 HIVE Sep 20, 2024
https://peakd.com/@elmerlin/activities
GET THE HELP YOU LOL
There are border crossings that are legal because they follow a protocol:
= legal
Border crossing that does not follow a protocol:
= illegal
Asylum seekers who commit criminal offences in the country that receives them are breaking the law of the receiving country and must leave the country.
The only sensible approach is that immigration, if it is not to cause stress, should be slow and moderate (i.e. follow protocols). If it doesn't, if you let a lot of foreigners - millions of them - into the country in a very short space of time, you end up in a crisis. People inevitably take an agitated stance and it usually divides the society of the host country.
So, the critical points here are
If a government is incapable of handling that, it is an incompetent one and should be replaced.
Why is the existence of a government protocol important? I know you say you think there is a need for restrictions, but what supports that assertion aside from your opinion?
Legality alone does not define morality. Saying something is wrong simply because some politicians said it was illegal is not a rational argument. Appealing tot he power of a government to enforce arbitrary edicts is not a rational measure of governmental legitimacy.
I don't mean to stereotype, but your arguments are very Germanic in their circular the law is the law and we must obey it because it is the law cycle, but I may be misunderstanding you.
Without a national government formulating a protocol and deploying executive personnel on your behalf, you have to go to your national border yourself and keep an eye on who enters your country and why, wouldn't you? Question would be: on what protocol?
If you don't want to do that because you don't want to work as a border guard or civil servant, but would rather do something else with your life, then you have to agree to a protocol and a border staff deputising for you that subjects the border to your living space to an order that does not stress capacity and social reasonableness. This staff must be trained and paid. Since this executive personnel is state-run, it is therefore subordinate to the government.
Unless you don't want a national border at all. In that case, however, you have to accept that you are thrown back on your immediate surroundings (house/apartment) and thus on your own skin.
This is because your immediate and wider surroundings can then be entered arbitrarily by anyone and you cannot automatically assume the exclusive goodwill of all people. The same would happen if you had no government. Your world would then be reduced to a much smaller space, as you would have to start joining forces with the people you know in your neighbourhood, i.e. form a kind of citizen militia. But you wouldn't know whether the citizen militia fifty kilometres away from you would follow the same rule, etc.
Your statements include so many assumptions.
Why do we worry about national border in the first place, and why do they need to be guarded in the first place? They are not analogous to private property lines. Why does my rejection of your initial assertion lead to justification for a national border enforcement system? It does not follow.
I am a philosophical anarchist because I reject these presumptions behind national so ereignty and political authority. They do not withstand scrutiny. Why do you assume the goodwill and virtue of the political class? Government now invades our lives, liberty, and property while its centralized power draws the corrupt like moths to a flame. An expropriating property protector is self-contradiction. I trust strangers more than I trust bureaucrats.
Just look at Ukraine and Russia. Those government borders engendered a needless conflict, and the political squabbles of the governments have led to untold destruction and death. People use the term "anarchy" as a bogeyman, but apologists for government are the ones with the burden of proof to justify bloodshed and chaos.
As I said before, if you let in too many people in too short a period of time, you agitate the settled society and divide the people. Is that a fact or not?
I find the argument that no government is better because we see highly corrupt governments illogical.
You might as well say that your car doesn't need windows because the windows it has installed are very shitty, if you know what I mean.
There is still a need for windows, is it not? But for functioning ones.
In the same way, I see a need for a government. The old parties must be replaced by a new government, which calms down the stresses of the people inside a country. But since the US and western Europe are so messed up (we would probably agree upon the reasons), these times do not come smoothly but first will increase the multiple stresses that had been caused within decades, before a calm down can even take place.
A lot of californians moving to the Pacific Northwest has been disruptive. This does not justify interstate immigration restrictions.
A welfare state , government monopoly schools, and centralized healthcare systems struggle under the burden of poor immigrants, but by the same logic then, we should be able to forbid the poor here from having babies, too. The problem is divorcing essential services from market transparency and hiding costs and needs alike behind a veil of bureaucracy.
Your argument presupposes that governments provide an essential good or service to society. I argue government is instead the biggest Mafia. National borders are mafia turf. Taxes are mafia extortion. Heck, organized crime syndicates are even known for providing charity and emergency services in many cities, and they do keep rival criminals in check. This doesn't mean mafias are necessary for a healthy city.
Society needs many services governments presently provide, but that does not justify government. As other analysts have suggested before, suppose government monopolized shoes. We all need shoes. But no matter how ill-fitting and ill-made those government shoes may be, a generation accustomed to government "right to shoes" would balk at suggestions shoes could be better provided by market means. "But who would make the shoes, and where? Out of what materials? How would they be distributed? What about people with little money, do you think they can afford $1000 Italian loafers? You just want the poor to go barefoot!" This same kinds of irrational arguments are raised when we suggest government police, courts, and borders are at best misguided, and at worst completely unnecessary obstacles. If we do need functional windows, do they need to be government windows? And do we in fact need these windows as your analogy suggests?
It all comes down to the question if you are willing to govern yourself. That is why I asked you, if you are willing to take into your own hands what is needed to have law and order within your surroundings. Since you cannot assume the good will of all people. You circumvented my question. Neither I nor you have a top solution to the problems we all face.
But it helps to ask the very essential questions, I think.
A government is not there to have it all fixed and done for the single individual, I agree. The less government, the less central, the less big organizations who were never elected but like to think in their tanks and sects all day long for "the whole world", the better.
But since the world is huge and since there are nations with borders, you cannot come up and decide that your nation doesn't need one and you and your little tribe can govern yourself. You just can't.
Cars are built by companies and shall be able to do so, not governments. We know where it leads when government wants to do it all. That is the problem. National governments need to secure the borders, need to spend the state money on necessarry infrastructure like streets, harbours, airports, public buildings and have its military ready to defend the populace.
All else is not their business but the business of the people who must be able to open up small, medium and big companies in order to function as a capable society. So they are able to feed themselves amongst each other and not having been fed by the holy government through oversized welfare progams. They fare well themselves if you leave them room to breathe and drop all this climate, gender, and DEI nonsense. For all the poor, disabled and otherwise needy ones, the society likes and will take care but making the whole of a society poor, disabled and otherwise needy, leads into desaster.
Why do you lock the door to your home and not leave it open?
Why do you call the police when someone breaks into your home or tries to rob you personally? And if you don't or wouldn't do that, can you expect the same attitude from those around you that you say is yours?
Let me ask again: Would you fully accept that you are thrown back on your immediate surroundings and thus on your own skin? Without relying on an existing border with its law and order, you'd have no other chance, is that correct?
Where would you draw the line, one mile, ten miles, fifty miles away from you? Or to the street you live? Or around the place you work? Where?
An order exists already but your former government did not execute it properly. That created such agitation to the other half of the population (to use a simple number) that it now is on drastic mode. But why is it on drastic mode? Does it come out of nowhere? Is there a reasonable explanation, you can give? Since you seem not to have accepted mine in pointing towards "time" and "numbers".
National borders are not analogous to property lines, house walls, or my front door.
I have a gun. If someone breaks in, we call 811 before we dig, not 911 for the cops. But seriously, citing a government-monopolized security service does not legitimize government any more than a government shoe monopoly would legitimize the state because people need to protect their feet.
Society arose before governments as we know them, and functions day-to-day in spite of government, not because of it. Governments routinely violate the laws and principles you claim we need them to enforce, and operates under standards we would not accept from our neighbors. Government is fundamentally a territorial monopoly in violence, or in other words, a mafia.
Order exists from the grassroots up, not from government down. Government plunders the productive economy, spreads a portion of their takings on enough shoddy monopolized services to buy popular support, and then borrow using us as collateral while enriching the politically-connected. This ever-growing cancerous monopoly of coercive power creates agitation as people play-tug-of-war in an effort to control it, engendering the escalating cycle of agitation, hate, and fear we see in modern domestic politics. The political class also diverts our attention abroad by blaming foreign powers, immigrants, and other outsiders as scapegoats. This is the real outcome of government power and border disputes.
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This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.
We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish
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I agree with the filth and the miseries caused through what you see as government. Only, I would call it "non government". It's not because the political elite is corrupt that one doesn't need a government, but precisely because it is corrupt that one needs one.
It is also the case that a government is needed, when there isn't actually one in office. Instead of working as it should, words and texts are being produced. Instead of leaving physical public structures such as water, fire and soil management to the experts in the field and on the water, one pretends that there is no physical matter. Instead of protecting people and material things - through a sensible budgetary effort - terms and buzzwords are protected. This is not real work, it is the simulation of activity. This is "non-government", but not "government".
If the world was not so interconnected and countries not so dependent on each other, nation states would not exist and a national government would not be necessary because people would not be travelling by plane and mass transport.
But since they do, and since goods are transported by air and water and railways in masses, and since goods reach the world market as a result, you can't just say that you don't need a national government. Someone will want to discuss the issue of importing and exporting large quantities of gas, oil and other commodities with you and will want to contractually negotiate the quantities for your nation, as well as international construction projects like pipelines. You'd want these nations to make a safe deal which lasts decades, and not until the next non-governor comes along.
If you leave it all to the ‘free market’, no one will stop an oligarch or a conglomerate from sinking their shark teeth into your country.
They tried it with Russia when the Soviet Union ended. Putin prevented that. Trump tries the same, but has a much harder job and maybe he lacks the skills and intelligence.
Unless you have no substitutes which gives the single individual the same quality and quantity of energy and electricity you need, you are dependent on having gas, oil and other essentials coming from foreign countries. In a modern world, you cannot isolate yourself, you need partners on the international level. Just for the sake of the big ones I mentioned, and I would like to add uranium as well, since atomic power plants need them to run.
Unless, you want go back and de-industrialize, do not drive a car, do not heat, do not cool and start living as a farmer or something less, you need a strong government which is able to reign and is not so paranoid to see enemies all over the world. But which is not so naive to see friends everywhere.
What exactly do you mean when you say "government?" There are many structures within society whereby we govern ourselves and form mutual agreements with others. When I specifically use the word "government," I mean a group of people who claim a territorial monopoly in violence. This usurped power can only draw the corrupt and corrupt those who intend virtue. Corruption isn't a bug, it's a feature.
The megacorporations people use as bogeymen of capitalism exist because they are intertwined with government. Incorporation is a legal process for protection in government courts. They lobby government for subsidies, protectionist regulations, bailouts, sweetheart contracts, and ever other anti-market intervention people say stems from free markets.
It does not follow that trade necessitates governments. It's also historically inaccurate. Merchants developed their own codes and courts because national laws don't work for free trade. They obstruct and interfere and turn innocent people into criminals. However, governments usurped many of these mechanisms in order to legitimize their interventionist policies and enrich their cronies while proclaiming they were somehow protecting us in the process.
Nationalism is isolationist. markets are global. It is the web of market prices and exchanges which made possible the automotive industry, computers, trade, and the rest of the modern world you credit government in your correlation/causation error. Strong government mean bad laws and worse wars. Police states and prohibition are anti-market, anti-individual, and anti-liberty. Arbitrary government borders are an obstacle to peace, progress, and prosperity.
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Hive Emergency: A Call to Action STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES
We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.
This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.
We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish
The Bilpcoin team were attacked by Themarkymark gang so, we started investigating and gathering evidence, and before long, we had a whole list of scammers and abusers. And let me tell you, it was a doozy
We are like the superheroes of Hive LOL night night Buildawhale scam farm
Merry Christmas, Hive community! We're excited to share some amazing Santa Claus art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI
As we approach the end of the year, the Bilpcoin team would like to extend their warmest wishes to everyone happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year
The Bilpcoin team is shifting its focus towards creating more in-depth content, aiming for less frequent but higher quality posts, potentially once or twice a day
We're ending the day with a bang - introducing two more crazy Santa designs: one happy drunk and one smoking
Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working
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Let's stick to the facts:
The wish for both to cease to exist is a wish. Nothing more.
Let's assume that the people of a nation succeed in overthrowing their government. How would they do that? Through the use of force by the citizens themselves? Well, even if that succeeds, what then? Does that put an end to a government? Hardly.
A government threatened by the people would immediately deploy its military and the whole thing would be over as quickly as it began. The times when the mob overthrew the powerful, as in France, are over.
Nowadays, governments are overthrown by other governments through their intelligence agencies and terrorist organisations, working with them. They then replace the previous figures with those of their choice.
In all cases, you end up with a government again.
Since this is the case, and since governments, especially in the West, have allowed an internal power structure to develop that is neither committed to a national identity nor interested in the well-being of the people themselves, the only solution is for a new elected government to bring down this internal power structure. Instead of, as is usually the case, making this internal apparatus more favourable to itself, whether Democrat or Republican, in your case. Which would merely be a continuation of the growing dependence of this apparatus - also known as the deep state.
In practical and pragmatic terms, it means using its existing sovereignty and given access over the accounting system, access to the budget books and thus being able to press the buttons on the computers to freeze and stop transfers and dismiss staff who are linked to the deep state.
The computers are located in official state buildings and are operated by official state employees. This technology and these buildings will not disappear by themselves. As long as both Democrats and Republicans did not take care of the books, because they each expected their own advantage from the existence of the deep state apparatus, the filth remained untouched.
Picking this gigantic mess apart will only work if you have an absolutely determined and fearless government that finally stops pandering, bowing and obeying this apparatus. That's what I mean by a ‘strong government’.
Whether we people on the outside want to agree in principle in our interpersonal and business relationships is completely irrelevant as long as the deep state operates unhindered and throws obstacles in the way of any business.
As it seems, the Trump team wants to fight deep state. It remains to be seen if they are going to succeed. It's a huge battle that needs to be fought. Whether or not they will waver, being tricked or seduced or influenced by their own vanity or other weaknesses and/or lack of knowledge and intelligence, is a question of the future.
Governments do not exist as something outside of the people claiming authority based on the idea. It has no more real substance than mythology. That is h people claiming government authority must act through violence and threats of violence to coerce others. There is no real consent or cooperation there.
Corporations are a legal fiction created under government law. Again, the people exist. their businesses with employees, buildings, material inputs, products, and services exist. Even shares of publicly traded corporations exist. But the corporation itself is an insubstantial thing.
Governments and corporations? Those are wishes.
I'm not calling for overthrowing government. I'm undermining it by arguing against its legitimacy. You cite the threat of violence. That is real,but does not justify government. If anything, it supports my case that it is an idea enforced by people who built it on a foundation of violence.
We're on a blockchain, technology designed to sidestep government control of money and censorship of media. HIVE is literally part of the process toward progress in spite of government violence and threats. Picking the mess apart isn't easy, but it is necessary. We begin by examining the ideas behind it.
You mention the Deep State. Do you really believe it's a bug, and not a feature? If we undermine the state, there is no Deep State anymore. If we pretend we can control the people who call themselves government, it just allows the Deep State to fester with a renewed veneer of legitimacy.
You can't effectively subvert it if you don't have the passwords to the computers that give you access to what's being decided over your head. And if you have no practical way to resist if you disagree with the government's decisions.
Can I ask you if you were disobedient during the plandemic? Did you say ‘no’ to every single measure that came up during that time? If so, was it the case that
I do.
And people also are split in how they see it. There is no unanimity to be found.
If you are a character who came to the top of a scene, and you do not like to have a shadow force giving you orders how to proceed within your top position, you'd rather would like to get rid of that shadow force instead of surrendering to it.
Trump is such a character. He likes to have power and so he sees it as a bug and not a feature. I would say that what he sees as a bug is way more influential than what the two of us see. Since he can create a movement and an atmosphere, which he clearly intends to do. So the question is still debatable, I think.
Undermining the idea of governmental legitimacy is the way we address the rest. Government relies entirely on public acceptance of this veneer of legitimacy.
Your questions about COVID are avoiding the root question, but if you must know, I never got the jab, and I worked for a small enough organization in a suitably less-authoritarian area that there were no mandates and no firings, but I had already taken precautions if that were to occur. Stored food, tools, departure plans, etc.
The 'Deep State' is the inevitable consequence of a territorial monopoly in violence which must maintain an illusion of legitimacy to secure public acceptance. Even before Woodrow Wilson really kicked off American technocracy, there were insiders and influencers in the shadows. Power draws the corrupt like moths to a flame. Representative democracy is a myth, and constitutional republics are papier-mache walls against overreach.
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We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.
This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.
We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish
The Bilpcoin team were attacked by Themarkymark gang so, we started investigating and gathering evidence, and before long, we had a whole list of scammers and abusers. And let me tell you, it was a doozy
We are like the superheroes of Hive LOL night night Buildawhale scam farm
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As we approach the end of the year, the Bilpcoin team would like to extend their warmest wishes to everyone happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year
The Bilpcoin team is shifting its focus towards creating more in-depth content, aiming for less frequent but higher quality posts, potentially once or twice a day
We're ending the day with a bang - introducing two more crazy Santa designs: one happy drunk and one smoking
Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working
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Hive Emergency: A Call to Action STOP THE BAD DOWNVOTES
We are facing a critical situation on the Hive blockchain, where a small group of individuals is exerting undue influence and control over the community. This group, comprised of a single "whale" and their associated accounts, is using their power to downvote good content, self-vote their own posts, and power down their tokens.
This behavior is having a devastating impact on our community, and it is essential that we take immediate action to address this issue. We propose two key solutions:
We understand that some individuals may be concerned about the rules and moderators. However, it is essential to recognize that the rules are made by the same individuals who are farming the system. Therefore, it is time for us to take matters into our own hands and create a new, better Hive.
We invite you to share your thoughts, ideas, and concerns in the comments below. Together, we can work towards creating a more inclusive, compassionate community for all Hivers.
We've even caught some top Hivers using their alt accounts to fund their own projects and manipulate the system. It is like they are playing a game of Hiveopoly, but instead of rolling dice, they are rolling out downvotes and taking money as they wish
The Bilpcoin team were attacked by Themarkymark gang so, we started investigating and gathering evidence, and before long, we had a whole list of scammers and abusers. And let me tell you, it was a doozy
We are like the superheroes of Hive LOL night night Buildawhale scam farm
Merry Christmas, Hive community! We're excited to share some amazing Santa Claus art crafted by the Bilpcoin team with the help of AI
As we approach the end of the year, the Bilpcoin team would like to extend their warmest wishes to everyone happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year
The Bilpcoin team is shifting its focus towards creating more in-depth content, aiming for less frequent but higher quality posts, potentially once or twice a day
We're ending the day with a bang - introducing two more crazy Santa designs: one happy drunk and one smoking
Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-sp2q9h
Don't let the enthusiasm of friends or family members cloud your judgment – crypto is a game where there will always be winners and losers
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https://hive.blog/hive-121566/@louis88/re-slobberchops-sp4a2y
At Bilpcoin, we're passionate about what we do, and we're committed to helping our community thrive. If any tribes or individuals need assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out, and we'll do our best to help. We believe in the power of community
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Bad downvotes on Hive are a growing concern that must be addressed. These downvotes not only discourage users from sharing their real thoughts and ideas but also damage the community as a whole, we see many walk away
We're disappointed to see that our work is still being downvoted despite the valuable insights and information we provide
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My question about the plandemic just made clear that there is no unanimity between people within a society. Btw, thanks for giving me an answer.
I did not talk about democracy but about government (or governance). Since large numbers of settled people must govern to keep things in order. Can you agree on the premise, that things do not sort themselves out just so?
I asked you about a different concept, about range and radius, for example. So far, the answer I perceive is that you are saying "everyone on his own" (thinking that you have a gun and a place to retreat when shit hits the fan). Now, while that may be a concept for some, it's a non option for others.
In a group of people in every day life you are always faced with those, who cannot defend themselves and with others who take advantage of that.
Do you agree that to govern such reality means that you organize police, courts and other institutions?
In oder to do that, do you agree that you need people who act as such and who in turn, need to be corrected and checked upon? You need an organization?
"Everyone on their own”, I see as a concept of survival, not a concept of living and governing together.
Obviously you and I are not in favor of how power is currently exercised, but as far as I can tell, this form of abuse of power needs to be met on an equal footing. Those are big pockets, currently the only means to get to the places of power and influence them. Since it is reasonable to assume that you don't have a pocket in which you keep billions of cash, at least I don't, the only chance is to change the system to one that has bugs only and is not the very function.
Unless, one favors that the powerful need to be destroyed and murdered through violence (instead of using milder means), for which you'd need the command over the military or organize an army with equal forces - which is not what I would call a success. Or, you favor a reset, which is even more drastic (total destruction).
This view - to change the system from feature to bug - needs all the support it can get. But when people - amongst themselves and outwards through media and social media - complain and whine all day long, want the cake and eat it, too, cannot wait, change daily their minds, formulate never ending demands etc., those who might be willing to reduce the system to some bugs, might shrug off the populace voices and continue to do what is the most convenient.
Corruption is by no means a characteristic of the powerful. It is found at the bottom to the same extent as it is found at the top. As long as a population is unable to behave within the smallest natural unit - the family - according to rules that benefit it instead of disturbing it, destroying it, it cannot absolve itself of mistakes such as envy, greed and corruption, etc. If a populace wants a savior instead of wanting to mind their business, this society might fail in its undertaking to subvert the abuse of power.
We are always in the middle of a story and the outcomes are not certain.
First, you seem to conflate two distinct ideas. Government is a group of people who claim a territorial monopoly in violence, and this is consistent with even maonstream political science definitions. I would define governance as voluntary, consensual agreements between people to organize cooperation, economic exchange, and dispute resolution. The latter does not require the former. In fact, I argue that society operates through a web of decentralized organizing forces of interwoven consenting structures today, not because of government, but in spite of it.
Second, you persist in mischaracterizing my rejection of government as rejection of society. Individualism in its rejection of government coercion is not rejection of society any more than abolitionists rejecting chattel slavery were rejecting economic production. Your range and radius concept is completely irrelevant. To make another analogy, it's like asking how large a church parish should be. We have overlapping religions, denominations, and congregations interspersed with nonbelievers now in spite of the pervasive belief in the need for a single dominant religion even in Europe a couple centuries ago. If you can see why England does not need to enforce Anglicanism or Spain does not need to enforce Catholicism for society to function, then you can perhaps also see how that applies to other aspects of society, too.
You mention police and courts as essential, but you are ignoring the rampant corruption and abuse in government monopolization of these services now, the already widespread use of alternatives today, and the possibilities we could have. I can direct you to theorists and arguments in more detail if you like. As it stands, your position is no different from, "but without slavery, who would pick the cotton?"
Youu assume we need to resist government on their terms with money and power. Again, my tactic is to undermine it. That means discussing ideas with statists such as yourself in an effort to persuade you peacefully in contrast to the political method of coercion, and build alternatives to government systems. Cryptocurrency is one example of the latter now that governments have monopolized money. We overcome the state by building better options, not by seizing control of the established order. We need abolition of slavery, not kinder slavemasters.
Stating complaints and decribing problems with the systems around us is not "whining." That's a lazy cop-out to avoid the problem instead of discussing it. The Internet today is the equivalent of broadsheets and pamphlets 200+ years ago when people were discussing the problems of monarchy and empire. Would you have been a royalist or a liberal then? Would you have accused people of whining and rejecting society if they dared question the divine right of kings?
Corruption is absolutely characteristic of power. Lord Acton's famous quote states, "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority." Many other thinkers have echoed the same sentiment as well, and their reasons for reaching that conclusion are based on simple observation and historical analysis alike. Biblically, we are told David, the "man after God's own heart," even had a man killed so he could take that man's wife as his own purely because he could. We also have numerous psychological studies on the nature of authoroty and its destructive effects. The Stanford Prison Experiment and the Milgram Experiment are the most famous, but not the only examples.
When I switch from my phone to my computer, I can provide links to other sources and additional evidence if you would like. I know my conclusions fall outside the mainstream, but I arrived at them only after wrestling with a lot of preconceptions.
agreed.
agreed.
I disagree.
In order to "organize cooperation, economic exchange, and dispute resolution" you are facing a hierarchy.
By government I mean the original concept of a nation state, which by definition deals with a reality beyond its sphere of influence (ergo the next border/problem it encounters), and whose core task is therefore to deal with foreign policy matters. In this sense, central government must be drastically downsized to its core function.
The hierarchy is the family, the municipal administration, the city administration, the state parliament, the federal parliament.
Each of these units regulates coexistence according to its internal and local affairs. Participation is voluntary and people stand for election. The use of funds for the construction and maintenance of infrastructure has a limited radius and influence due to the nature of the hierarchy and funds. If the influence of a municipal administration extended beyond its own territory, it would no longer be called a municipality. If the local residents want an indoor swimming hall, a public library or a fire department, they need not to ask the state government, they decide for themselves. Or so, it should be.
With regard to the hierarchies, it is clear that the respective influence is limited. Where a municipality comes up against a large city, it is not the municipality that determines what should happen in the city, but the city that wants to do it; though they may want to throw together their competences and work with one another.
Where the city ends, it is surrounded by lands and other cities (groups down and up the hierarchy) and where all cities are found in a particular region, they must work together to decide on projects that affect an entire region, such as the construction of a dam, for example.
How do you as a family member or as a community member want this matter to be decided when you as a family or as a community are already fully occupied with the matters closest to you?
But who is supposed to guard the border when neighboring states line up as enemies? Who should establish diplomatic relations with neighboring countries if a conflict threatens or has broken out?
Who should defend a country that is under attack in an emergency? Should the family, the community that is inside a country wait until the problem builds up right on their doorstep? What should they do against an army or other invaders and exploiters coming close?
You may wish to have no border, and the country next to yours may also wish to have no border, but at some point you will encounter a state that wishes to have a border and maintain a more closed system for reasons we are not entitled to judge, as that nation may be thousands of miles away and have a past that causes them to do so. We may find that reason unreasonable, but we have no right to impose on them how they should govern. I am talking facts, do I not?
Before the EU, we had national borders in Europe that were manned. But you could travel to any European country and not have the impression that the border was a frightening experience where you had to cower in your car seat at the sight of soldiers armed to the teeth. There was no such sight. The overwhelming majority of travellers never had an experience of oppression and violence at these border crossings.
Therefore, the border crossings can become very permeable over many years because the neighbouring countries maintain a good friendship and see no need for hostilities. They welcome mutual tourism and trade with each other. And that's how it was as a matter of fact here in Europe for many, many years. I witnessed and experienced it myself, since I am old enough.
That follows your no border concept as much as it is reasonable and doable. These borders existed but they operated as if such border was not really there. To the extend that the atmosphere and the circumstances change, the border changes its state of relaxation or tense. Why would you have anything against this flexibility?
So, a strong border is necessary just in (bad) case. If peace is disturbed, if conditions become dangerous, if a major conflict arises. You also would want to have a well-trained, well-equipped fire brigade in case a fire breaks out, don't you?
@jacobtothe
I want to add to the paragraph where I said earlier that
They also welcome new residents, hence foreigners, as becoming long term members of their societies.
They cannot possibly maintain such welcoming culture when they are taking in masses and masses of immigrants in very short times, and are disabled of having a coordinated flow as in normal times, as a consequence. Which was my original argument.
Border controls are carried out at random in relaxed times, they identify the criminals and treat them properly strict. But they cannot operate normally if they are flooded with refugees and illegal immigrants. This is irresponsible towards both the locals and the immigrants. No one is being treated with justice or dignity here.
The fact that so many people are crossing the borders is a strong expression of dysfunction in the countries of origin of those seeking to enter the country. This dysfunction is not reduced by letting in all these people, on the contrary, it causes a never-ending stream of new arrivals. A neighboring country or the neighboring country of the country that allows criminals to traffic in people, brutalize its internal conditions and must not be further encouraged to simply get rid of this problem by treating people like cattle.