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We will see the side effects of the free vaxes in the future.
What! No Ice cream!?
https://www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-vaccine-reward-europe-skepticism/
History repeats itself. !BBH
Yep. That's government 'free' services right there. Someone should let the Communists know. Except they're all Malthusians that want to slaughter humanity to save the mosses or something.
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Ftfy.
Socialusts use gov't violence to force compliance, communists sell better ideas.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism
Well, we can disagree about Communism and still agree on letting the Socialists in on their fate.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/franz-mehring-the-bakunin-marx-split-in-the-1st-international
These folks you have read were innovators and brilliant. No doubt. The miraculous advance of technology has completely changed the potential and and prospect of freedom from oligarchies, and Communism has serially proved to not work in the real world at doing that.
Every idea about policy and institutions is distinct from the actual implementation that can be attempted. The ultimate hurdle to human freedom is economic independence. Because of the millennia of parasitic harvesting of the labors of humanity by the most acquisitive and pathological persons and entities that have existed freedom is ever further away despite the advent of incredible decentralized means of production in every field of industry.
One impassable barrier to all the anarchists, communists, and writers of centuries past is that the economic power to afford freedom cannot be marshalled by those that can have freedom. Freedom cannot be a collective event. It is a personal attribute. Sovereignty cannot be a national, regional, or institutional feature. Only a person is sovereign. If there is a free country, then the citizens of that country cannot be free because they must act within the constraints requisite to enabling their country to remain indomitable. Only people can be free, and only individually.
This is why freedom cannot be Communist. It can only be Capitalist. Each person that would be free must themselves possess the means of affording their personal freedom, and insofar as they must provide some labor for a wage or salary to afford it, they are not free, because they do as they're told or they don't get paid. What is required for actual freedom for individual people is that they personally possess the means of providing themselves the goods and services necessary to their enjoyment of the blessings of civilization, or those that can be traded for it with other free people voluntarily in a free market.
More even than this alone, folks must be able to secure their freedom from the inevitable armed gangs of mercenary thugs that will come to take their wealth, at least as long as people reside on Earth. Only today has means of producing WMDs become available to individuals that give them the potential to destroy or dissuade such gangs from overpowering them and taking their shit, and presently these technologies aren't well developed and certainly aren't widely disseminated, so there are likely no free people today that enjoy the blessings of civilization.
This is no recommendation to scrounge for our daily supper in the wastes, a la Uncle Ted, but notes that more development and distribution of means of production is necessary before that paradise of civil society of free people can exist. Communism not only has never worked to create free people, it can never work to do so because it is a collective endeavor, and freedom is a personal attribute that cannot be availed collectively.
Note he points out it's legitimate. Centralization is the problem with capitalism. That's what creates the ruling class, not capitalism. Anyone that plants a seed in a garden is a capitalist, spending their capital in seed, soil, and sunshine on produce.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4iGCPmVb04g&pp=ygUSQ2FwYXRsaXNtIHR3byBjb3dz
Traditional capitalism seems ideal to me. Even a Recoursed based economy is better than this monetary system. I opine.
Tell me, why would concepts central to authoritarianism/crapitalism be carried into the new way of doing things?
The way where we are all brothers?
A member of team absolutely required to persist as life on this planet.
Where crime is limited to insane acts of madmen, and not simply every ceo/judge/cop/authoritarian control freak on the block?
Trafficking humans takes on a different texture without money to pay the middlemen.
Rather than the exclusive domain of the wealthiest crooks, it is carried on solely by those still accepting that this person gets to rule that person because reasons/lack of crapital.
Have you not taken the time to read the links I provide?
I should think you would relish this one as it seems to mirror exactly as you say you do.
We have to have workers, we don't have to have dollars.™
Why does crapitalism's skools not teach the children how to excel at crapitalism?
Because the current crop of overlords wants it that way.
New boss, pushing the same dope as the old boss.
I'd like to see a child welcomed into the world with the ladder laid out in front of him.
Will he be a mechanic?
Will he be a scientist?
Will he be a bum spouting dharma?
Or dharma spouting a bum?
https://archive.org/details/dharmabums0000kero_e9y0
Whatever he is gonna be, I think the current system handicaps him, preferring profits over people.
Cash over happiness.
Bud nipping.
Cops protect criminals from the rest of us.
The neighbors know which is which.
The neighborhood gets exactly as much tyranny as they tolerate.
There is no need to sacrifice today's conveniences on the alter of uncle ted, but the control factors certainly should be.
The switch from what we have, to what we should have had all along absent megalomaniacal control freaks, is as easy as everybody that worked today to fill the shelves continue to do that work until the control freaks get used to not being able to control the masses with their bullies.
Once that upheaval comes to an end, one will learn to be very careful of one's reputation.
Getting the reputation of being a bum can have life long impacts.
Unless the bum can spout dharma in a satisfying amount for the community he calls home.
As for having been tried and failed, it seems to me that many successful communist communities were bombed from the air by crapitalust bombs.
https://listverse.com/2016/06/29/10-instances-of-anarchist-societies-that-actually-worked/
You may not be aware, dear friend, but the crapitalust overlords know damn well why communism is given the treatment in the common knowledge that it is, hiding the doorway out keeps the slaves on the plantations.
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Because those concepts are fundamental to life itself, which is why they are central to capitalism. Capitalism has nothing to do with authoritarianism. Trees are capitalists when they invest in leaves in the spring to collect sunshine with. They're investing their capital for a return.
That principle will be operant no matter what economic system is involved.
Where do I say otherwise? I mention wealth, and I mention above the tree investing it's wealth in making leaves. Don't confuse capitalism with corporations or government or monetary systems. There is no work unless there's capital to invest, whatever form that capital is in. There's no product unless there's investment.
There's new tools. Used to be that peasants didn't have any means to defend themselves from the King's brigands, who had armor, horse, and swords. Along came Samuel Colt and things got more equal. Now there are WMDs that can be manufactured on your kitchen table. Things are a lot more equal. If the neighbors want to rule themselves, they can - but only if they can provision themselves. They can't whack the King's brigands and proclaim their autonomous collective and then travel the King's road to the King's Walmart and buy their dinners.
This is why individual sovereignty can only be possible to people that can support themselves economically, and that's what supporting themselves economically means. It has not a goddamn thing to do with dollars. It's about wealth and making it yourself. That's what makes you free, not some proclamation, not some essay on Kropotkin. A neighborhood that can defend each other and makes the things they need can be free, but that's the only way they can be free. They can't be free AND dependent on the King's road and the King's centralized production.
This has never been possible before, because there has never been means of producing WMDs on your kitchen table before. You have to be able to defend what you own to truly own it, and that's what King's brigands have always proved.
Communists could never defend their community from the oligarchs, and the Bolsheviks proved it. You bad mouth capitalism, but capitalism isn't the problem, it's the solution. Now there are tools that enable individuals to invest their capital in production of the goods and services that create the blessings of civilization on their kitchen tables. Rather, these tools are developing and dispersing across populations, not that they are fully mature and capable. But it is necessary to adopt these technologies because not adopting them means remaining dependent on oligarchs that field brigands to take our shit and make us obey.
Brigandry's not capitalism. Capitalism is a tree growing leaves. Folks that wanna eat are gonna have to make food. Oligarchs IRL are buying up all the farms and ending the supply of food that folks wanting to be free are dependent on. Instead of being free, they are dependent, and if oligarchs don't want to trade their centralized production for their labor, their dependence will kill them.
That's the facts on the ground today.
Calling bs on that.
Try sharing food with the local grocery store and see how quick the guns come out.
Profit is the motive of crapitalism, not the well being of the restofus.
Please read this, it does the math for you.
We could all be living in abundance, instead we let crapitalism create trillionaires while some of us live on the streets in poverty.
Is this not what we see around us?
Is not most of the world living on less than 10usd a day?
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There is plenty of work, cleaning parks and roadways for instance, but nobody wants to pay for that work because it doesn't bring a profit.
'God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.'
Sam Colt
Though, honestly, we probably shouldn't be ruling over our neighbors by using force.
Picture everybody that worked to fill the shelves today continuing to work to fill the shelves for the foreseeable future, but rather than have to wait until the wage slaves can afford to buy something, we just make it available to any that want to come get it.
As long as the work is done, the shelves are full.
No profit needed.
Just free stuff.
I would suspect friction between those that refuse to contribute, call them bums, and those that do the necessary work to keep the shelves stocked, but that friction can be worked out locally with the neighbors.
It is unlikely to be pleasurable to be a bum.
The only people complaining are the folks that now have to contribute, or be considered bums.
The ones that lost their free ride made possible by their grandpappy's over-achievements at gathering profits.
With the retirement age at 50, I doubt many won't contribute.
Especially in light of not needing more than ~25k hours of labor from any one individual over the course of their adult life.
Compare that to the 40hours a week times 40 years that we have now.
Kings don't do manual labor.
Kings don't lay asphalt.
It's two of the great things about being king.
Workers do manual labor, and they could have the system I have proposed on any given tuesday by simply putting their hands in their pockets and refusing to buy into the current bs.
IF only they knew their power to cause abundance for all and not just profits for the few.
Instead they get mindwarped by the crapitalusts in crapitalust financed skools that lie about communism and what it actually is, mutual aid.
'Oh, if you work hard enough you can be a billionaire, too.'
Bs, and you won't grow up to be president, either.
Those are lies told to us by folks that don't know any better because they got edumacated by crapitalusts, too.
Your slavemaster is not going to give you the keys to escape your enslavement.
And on any given tuesday we could have a radically different split of the worker's production.
One share of the labor in return for one share of the goods.
Oligarchs stay in power through force and intimidation, any system that perpetuates that is not in the best interests of the whole.
When society enslaves you, antisocialism is duty.™
You're confusing capitalism with centralization.
https://yandex.com/video/preview/878185971797147254
Communism is NOT mutual aid. It can't be because of centralization. Some oligarch will defend their parasitized hoard with a gang of thugs. That ALWAYS happens and you know it. You complain about it bitterly. Not until the individuals are able to secure their production with superior force will that end, and that is what decentralization enables.
Greater men than I have waxed eloquently on all manner of policies theoretically preferable to society in centralized industry, and for centuries lived and died to make those things happen. Here we are. The problem isn't capitalism. The TREES are capitalists. The problem is centralization.
Who's fault is that?
I blame the people that find using violence to control others acceptable.
IF somebody with enough reach came out and stated for the world that using violence to control others is no longer acceptable this whole illusion would collapse and we could go about being human beings rather than dogs fighting over bones.
But, no self respecting crapitalust will ever do that.
Too much profits in gov't interference in the markets.
https://ok.ru/video/7090610047731
It doesn't even matter. They're out there. There will never be a shortage of them as long as we're trapped on this ball together. What can matter is being too well armed to be vulnerable. Peace through strength is the only kind of peace there is, except for the peace of the grave.
You keep confusing centralization with capitalism. You are necessarily a capitalist. You invest capital to gain a return, the definition of capitalism. What you object to is centralization, where the labor of a collective is parasitized by an overlord, ostensibly necessary to manage the collective. Only now have means of production of the blessings of civilization become potential to individuals, and by this means those parasitic losses be eliminated. That's how to defeat what you hate. Starve them of a cut of your wealth, and help your neighbors to do the same. Not only do you starve oligarchs by that means you increase the actual wealth you and your neighbors enjoy because you keep what you make.
What I object to is authoritarianism.
Centralization is required for mass production.
Any group endeavor needs a director to be efficient.
I wouldn't want to work in a factory that didn't have supervisors.
Agrarian societies have been around for a long time.
Mass non-compliance is the ticket.
https://thesocietypages.org/monte/2013/12/21/the-monkey-master-fable/
Mass production is not competitive with bespoke local production. If you fail to seize the means of production suitable to your personal circumstances and provide such goods and services to an interdependent community of decentralized producers, you will remain dependent on the centralized economy - and you will die because the UK is going to kill the carbon it wants to reduce. By 2030 Beef, lamb, and dairy will not be provided in the UK. That is a) just the beginning, and b) just what they're willing to state in advance.
Agrarian Uncle Ted Luddism isn't civilization, and isn't potential to produce WMDs that can secure communities from gangs of armed thugs come to kill them and take their stuff.
Mass non-compliance is a death warrant. What is necessary is mass seizure of decentralized means of production and development of interdependent communities of free people that make their wealth.
(((They))) to kill 90% of humanity, and all the things that are happening now are prefaces to the killing.
Edit: remember we're talking about the NWO. This isn't limited to the UK. Each country is at a different point and has different strengths and weaknesses, so different countries are being herded into different corrals. All the different corrals will have chutes to the same abbatoir. You dislike authoritarianism, which is why I like you. The only way to not submit to authority is to be able to commit more violence against them than they're willing to suffer to oppress you. Peace through strength is the only peace that can exist. Get strapped or get clapped. Make bank/bread/butter, or starve when the centralized producers cut everyone off. Best to be prepared in advance for that because it's surely coming, as Keir Starmer promises.
Loners innawoods aren't the survival of civil society. They're just a little harder to catch and kill.
Give this more thought is all I can ask.
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