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Shame on all the fake abuse fighters on Hive π
To everyone reading Please read and share ππΎ
proof of scam on Hive posh Dhf Dumb Hive Fund blocktrades buildawhale comment farm ππππ Happy Friday everyone
@acidyo @neoxian @themarkymark @hurtlocker @jacobtothe @steevc @meno @theycallmedan @gogreenbuddy @meno @crimsonclad @solominer and friends β¨ββ¨πππ
Do you really think no one sees what you do π€
@acidyo You took my rep away for no reason with the help of blocktrades delegation π @steevc knows all about it
You and themarkymark work for blocktrades or are blocktrades π
You are so sad doing what you do
Promoting your π©π©π©π©π©π©
Selfvoting your π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©
You have downvoted so many people away for no reason
You really need to have a hard long look in the mirror and see what you have become
It doesn't matter if you have people who believe anything you say for a few cents or a few pennies ππππ
Look at your buddy oldsoulnewb πππππ
Everything is documented
So the choice is yours again leave me alone and bring my rep back and I will stop sharing the truth
You can call my long copy paste comments spam but it only makes you look stupid π

I hope you understand you are only making it worse π
Hive is not a game it might be a big game to you π€
It seems you love to game Hive don't you π
Everyone sees don't you think it's time to stop π
You have shown all the real issues with Hive π you have shown why real people couldn't invest in Hive and build on Hive π
You are in god mode π activated π you Marky Dan and others πππππ
I hope you enjoyed this post or you might see in comment from π which you like to call spam πππ
@jacobtothe Keep digging just remember @acidyo took my rep away with the help of blocktrades delegations and everything is documented πππ
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@jacobtothe and friends Please get help there's clearly something wrong with you ππΎ
I hope blocktrades pays you well enough ππππ
Some people just never learn when πππππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
@jacobtothe @livinguktaiwan @oflyhigh @abit @adm @eval @hivetoday @abitmore @hurtlocker @hurt-locker @epstein @gundamzerofour @gundamzerotwo @gundamzerofive @buratus @gungunkrishu @tarabh @nattosenpai @fw206 @ocd @acidyo @hivetrending @mrtats @poshtoken @davideownzall @dudeontheweb @caspermoeller89 @strawhat @angeluxx @cositav @rachaeldwatson @solumviz @poshtoken.wallet @shiftrox @hiddenblade @hivegc @alohaed @tobias-g @nattosenpai @hivetrending @erikah @davidke20 @davideownzall @zingtoken @honey-swap @friendlymoose @x-rain @hivegc @rishi556 @ocd-witness @russia-btc @ocdb @justinw @nutritree @themarkymark @geekgirl @buynburn @stresskiller @forkyishere @forykw @belikechuck @leovoter @upmyvote @punkteam @makerhacks @wiseagent @steevc @davidthompson57 @annoyingmosquito @meesterboom @demotruk @meno @thelittlebank @knot @buttcoins @snapie @coolmole @davidickeyyall @crimsonclad @smooth @oldsoulnewb @ds-tech @artgirl @flemingfarm @neoxian @nwothini335 @bdvoter.cur @zaku @mango-juice @empo.voter @empoderat @ferranlogs @trumpman @bhattg @azircon @riverflows @lazy-panda @gogreenbuddy @tarazkp @buildawhale @logic @abit @freedom @solominer @letusbuyhive @bijoy12 @sagarkothari88 @theycallmedan @ipromote @apeminingclub @nathen007 @dlmmqb @slobberchops @chops316 @littlenewthings @bozz @adm @abit @cwow2 @adm @logic @savvyplayer @patrice @spaminator @topcomment @theworldaroundme @jongolson and friends β¨ββ¨ Please get help ππΎ
@jacobtothe @acidyo @themarkymark @hurtlocker and friends π No one will ever trust you again you weirdo π
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive π by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person π§
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ Keep calling the truth lies πβπΎ
So many pretend to be doing god's work but they are really working for the devil πΏ
Karma will strike you and who ever supports you ππΎ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
To @jacobtothe and friends π
@crimsonclad please do your job ππΎ
https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz
https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x
https://hive.blog/dev/@howo/re-kgakakillerg-szhax7
https://hive.blog/hive/@steevc/follow-friday-respect
https://hive.blog/hive-127022/@shmoogleosukami/re-kgakakillerg-t0hcxc
It's unbelievable that they downvoted this Goodbye Auntie R.I.P ππΎ
Comments being downvoted by blocktrades https://hive.blog/hive-170744/@kgakakillerg/t0ns3b
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@steevc/re-blocktrades-t0kint
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@blocktrades/t0lq41
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-2025-06-29-20250629143829
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0m1vn
https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/t0rfo8
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0vcl7
Stop farming Hive https://hive.blog/burnpost/@buildawhale/re-1756307402814502169-20250827t151240z
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π The Untrending Report - Hive Downvote Analysis - 2025-09-07
RE: Understanding Pointers in C Programming
Please Peakd, allow me to completely block spammers (Would you ever vote for this?) thanks for exposing yourself more @makerhacks
Please go through it all instead of calling it spam πππππ€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
https://blurt.blog/hive/@candy49/5slvnx-taskmaster4450-is-being-downvoted-on-hive-by-you-know-who
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https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/themarkymark
https://hive.blog/hive-178138/@thefed/t6q9kb ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ
https://hive.blog/music/@geneeverett33/11-25-25-three-tune-tuesday-picking-tunes-from-the-punk-band-the-descendents-1982-1997-era
π¨π¨π¨ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/dmania/@steemcleaners/ps46kb
https://hive.blog/hive-124838/@fjworld/re-peaksnaps-t7161i
π¨π¨π¨π¨ππππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨
https://blurt.blog/blurt-131902/@condividisulweb/3w94e8-hive-manipulation-censorship-and-suspicious-funds-the-hidden-truth
π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/hive/@kgakakillerg/i-ve-been-put-on-two-blacklists
Thank you for reading and viewing this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
I'm sharing the truth I know it hurts you but it is what it is ππ»
It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars π€π§ and a account to hold 24 million dollars π° crazy
To everyone who is turning a blind eye to the truth karma will strike you down ππΎ
Stop Doing the devils work do gods work ππΎ
βπΎπππππππππ·πΈπΈ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
#themarkymarkfiles #buildawhalefiles #acidyofiles #hurtlockerfiles #neoxianfiles #louis88files #azirconfiles #jacobtothefiles #ausbitbankfiles #poshtokenfiles #menofiles #Guiltypartiesfiles #Usainvotefiles #smoothfiles
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
Please read and share the truth ππΎ
On hive it's like some people don't realise everything is documented and you can never hide from the truth ππππππ»

@acidyo @neoxian @themarkymark @hurtlocker @jacobtothe @steevc @meno @theycallmedan @crimsonclad and friends β¨ββ¨πππ
Do you really think no one sees what you do π€
@acidyo You took my rep away for no reason with the help of blocktrades delegation π @steevc knows all about it
You and themarkymark work for blocktrades or are blocktrades π
You are so sad doing what you do
Promoting your π©π©π©π©π©π©
Selfvoting your π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©
You have downvoted so many people away for no reason
You really need to have a hard long look in the mirror and see what you have become
It doesn't matter if you have people who believe anything you say for a few cents or a few pennies ππππ
Look at your buddy oldsoulnewb πππππ
Everything is documented
So the choice is yours again leave me alone and bring my rep back and I will stop sharing the truth
You can call my long copy paste comments spam but it only makes you look stupid π

I hope you understand you are only making it worse π
Hive is not a game it might be a big game to you π€
It seems you love to game Hive don't you π
Everyone sees don't you think it's time to stop π
You have shown all the real issues with Hive π you have shown why real people couldn't invest in Hive and build on Hive π
You are in god mode π activated π you Marky Dan and others πππππ
I hope you enjoyed this post or you might see in comment from π which you like to call spam πππ
@jacobtothe Keep digging just remember @acidyo took my rep away with the help of blocktrades delegations and everything is documented πππ
βπΎβ¨ββ¨βπΎπ»π»π»π»
ππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
@jacobtothe and friends Please get help there's clearly something wrong with you ππΎ
I hope blocktrades pays you well enough ππππ
Some people just never learn when πππππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
@jacobtothe @livinguktaiwan @oflyhigh @abit @adm @eval @hivetoday @abitmore @hurtlocker @hurt-locker @epstein @gundamzerofour @gundamzerotwo @gundamzerofive @buratus @gungunkrishu @tarabh @nattosenpai @fw206 @ocd @acidyo @hivetrending @mrtats @poshtoken @davideownzall @dudeontheweb @caspermoeller89 @strawhat @angeluxx @cositav @rachaeldwatson @solumviz @poshtoken.wallet @shiftrox @hiddenblade @hivegc @alohaed @tobias-g @nattosenpai @hivetrending @erikah @davidke20 @davideownzall @zingtoken @honey-swap @friendlymoose @x-rain @hivegc @rishi556 @ocd-witness @russia-btc @ocdb @justinw @nutritree @themarkymark @geekgirl @buynburn @stresskiller @forkyishere @forykw @belikechuck @leovoter @upmyvote @punkteam @makerhacks @wiseagent @steevc @davidthompson57 @videoaddiction @annoyingmosquito @meesterboom @demotruk @meno @thelittlebank @knot @buttcoins @snapie @coolmole @davidickeyyall @crimsonclad @smooth @oldsoulnewb @ds-tech @artgirl @flemingfarm @neoxian @nwothini335 @bdvoter.cur @zaku @mango-juice @empo.voter @empoderat @ferranlogs @trumpman @bhattg @azircon @riverflows @lazy-panda @gogreenbuddy @tarazkp @buildawhale @logic @abit @freedom @solominer @letusbuyhive @bijoy12 @sagarkothari88 @theycallmedan @ipromote @apeminingclub @nathen007 @dlmmqb @slobberchops @chops316 @littlenewthings @bozz @adm @abit @cwow2 @adm @logic @savvyplayer @patrice @spaminator @topcomment @theworldaroundme @jongolson @mobi72 and friends β¨ββ¨ Please get help ππΎ
@jacobtothe @acidyo @themarkymark @hurtlocker and friends π No one will ever trust you again you weirdo π
ππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive π by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person π§
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ Keep calling the truth lies πβπΎ
So many pretend to be doing god's work but they are really working for the devil πΏ
Karma will strike you and who ever supports you ππΎ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
To @jacobtothe and friends π
@crimsonclad please do your job ππΎ
https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz
https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x
https://hive.blog/dev/@howo/re-kgakakillerg-szhax7
https://hive.blog/hive/@steevc/follow-friday-respect
https://hive.blog/hive-127022/@shmoogleosukami/re-kgakakillerg-t0hcxc
It's unbelievable that they downvoted this Goodbye Auntie R.I.P ππΎ
Comments being downvoted by blocktrades https://hive.blog/hive-170744/@kgakakillerg/t0ns3b
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@steevc/re-blocktrades-t0kint
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@blocktrades/t0lq41
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-2025-06-29-20250629143829
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0m1vn
https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/t0rfo8
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0vcl7
Stop farming Hive https://hive.blog/burnpost/@buildawhale/re-1756307402814502169-20250827t151240z
πππππ
π The Untrending Report - Hive Downvote Analysis - 2025-09-07
RE: Understanding Pointers in C Programming
Please Peakd, allow me to completely block spammers (Would you ever vote for this?) thanks for exposing yourself more @makerhacks
Please go through it all instead of calling it spam πππππ€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
https://blurt.blog/hive/@candy49/5slvnx-taskmaster4450-is-being-downvoted-on-hive-by-you-know-who
π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ¨π¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/themarkymark
https://hive.blog/hive-178138/@thefed/t6q9kb ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ
https://hive.blog/music/@geneeverett33/11-25-25-three-tune-tuesday-picking-tunes-from-the-punk-band-the-descendents-1982-1997-era
π¨π¨π¨ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/dmania/@steemcleaners/ps46kb
https://hive.blog/hive-124838/@fjworld/re-peaksnaps-t7161i
π¨π¨π¨π¨ππππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨
https://blurt.blog/blurt-131902/@condividisulweb/3w94e8-hive-manipulation-censorship-and-suspicious-funds-the-hidden-truth
π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/hive/@kgakakillerg/i-ve-been-put-on-two-blacklists
Thank you for reading and viewing this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
I'm sharing the truth I know it hurts you but it is what it is ππ»
It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars π€π§ and a account to hold 24 million dollars π° crazy
To everyone who is turning a blind eye to the truth karma will strike you down ππΎ
Stop Doing the devils work do gods work ππΎ
βπΎπππππππππ·πΈπΈ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
#themarkymarkfiles #buildawhalefiles #acidyofiles #hurtlockerfiles #neoxianfiles #louis88files #azirconfiles #jacobtothefiles #ausbitbankfiles #poshtokenfiles #menofiles #Guiltypartiesfiles #Usainvotefiles #smoothfiles
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
Please read and share the truth ππΎ one thing you must understand you can never beat the truth with lies ππΎ
To @jacobtothe and friends π You must be smart enough to understand you and your stupid friends have been exposed
You can keep lying as much as you like it changes nothing you should be smart enough to understand that π€
What's nice about you running around downvoting people and talking π©π©
You call the truth spam it says a lot about you as I keep saying please get help ππΎ
As I've said from the start bring my rep back stop downvoting me and I stop sharing the truth π
But believe me you have much bigger problems πππ»
If you reply with nonsense don't expect me to respond
You know what you are going to get some more of that truth you like to call spam πππ»
You could never bully me in real life and you can never bully me online it will only backfire like it has already on you and your friends ππππππππ
I don't play game's I finish them ππ»
@crimsonclad please do your job ππΎ
https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz
https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x
https://hive.blog/dev/@howo/re-kgakakillerg-szhax7
https://hive.blog/hive/@steevc/follow-friday-respect
https://hive.blog/hive-127022/@shmoogleosukami/re-kgakakillerg-t0hcxc
It's unbelievable that they downvoted this Goodbye Auntie R.I.P ππΎ
Comments being downvoted by blocktrades https://hive.blog/hive-170744/@kgakakillerg/t0ns3b
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@steevc/re-blocktrades-t0kint
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@blocktrades/t0lq41
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-2025-06-29-20250629143829
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0m1vn
https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/t0rfo8
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0vcl7
Stop farming Hive https://hive.blog/burnpost/@buildawhale/re-1756307402814502169-20250827t151240z
πππππ
π The Untrending Report - Hive Downvote Analysis - 2025-09-07
RE: Understanding Pointers in C Programming
Please Peakd, allow me to completely block spammers (Would you ever vote for this?) thanks for exposing yourself more @makerhacks
Please go through it all instead of calling it spam πππππ€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
https://blurt.blog/hive/@candy49/5slvnx-taskmaster4450-is-being-downvoted-on-hive-by-you-know-who
π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ¨π¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/themarkymark
https://hive.blog/hive-178138/@thefed/t6q9kb ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ
https://hive.blog/music/@geneeverett33/11-25-25-three-tune-tuesday-picking-tunes-from-the-punk-band-the-descendents-1982-1997-era
π¨π¨π¨ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/dmania/@steemcleaners/ps46kb
https://hive.blog/hive-124838/@fjworld/re-peaksnaps-t7161i
π¨π¨π¨π¨ππππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨
https://blurt.blog/blurt-131902/@condividisulweb/3w94e8-hive-manipulation-censorship-and-suspicious-funds-the-hidden-truth
π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ¨π¨π¨
https://hive.blog/hive/@kgakakillerg/i-ve-been-put-on-two-blacklists
Thank you for reading and viewing this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
I'm sharing the truth I know it hurts you but it is what it is ππ»
It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars π€π§ and a account to hold 24 million dollars π° crazy
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that's probably the better way to be. I don't often watch movies but when I do there seems to always be some sort of "programing", some sort of lesson they are trying to teach the audience. Everything has a political edge now and that is just infuriating to me. Just like I don't want to be marketed to at all times in my life, I don't want or need everything to have some sort of political edge to it.
During covid, all sitcoms had characters going for their jabs. They tell us how to comply by inundating us with compliant characters.
I must have missed that level of programming during Covid but it doesn't suprise me at all. I remember the late night hosts and how they all fell in line and encouraged people to comply and even to mock or even hurt people who didn't fall in line. Crazy
Crazy is right. Hypnotized by the simple technique of 24/7 repetition. A friend of mine recently asked me if there has ever been a president as bad as Trump. I replied "Biden." It was during his administration that I was afraid of being sent off to a concentration camp, my assets stolen by the government because I could have been classified as a domestic terrorist. All for having made an un-approved lifestyle choice. We are still not allowed to talk about it, or are called all sorts of names such as conspiracy theorist, Q cultist etc.