Stranger than Fiction
An act of domestic terrorism.
Perhaps many people have already seen the video of the police shooting a woman in Minneapolis by ICE agents in the US, but it is pretty incredible that it is already being called self-defence by the government, including the president. There are at least two angles filmed of it and in neither of them does it look like it was an act of self-defence, nor necessary to shoot at all.
Will there be riots?
I get that the average American's view of daily life likely contains none of this and that the media that reaches the international audience gives a sensationalised view of what is going on, but isn't there some sense of "this is crazy" felt by the average citizen? It all just seems so dystopic, with each day looking to outdo the previous by ramping up the insanity.
And what is going to be interesting now, is if there are riots and demonstrations, they will be leveraged into becoming violent, so that the "radical left" can be blamed and more force can be justified. Because, any violence, any action at all, will now be labelled "an act of domestic terrorism", and can face the same treatment as that woman in the car.
Defend the country against terrorists!
With terrorists being anyone who disagrees with the government. Which is pretty much the way Putin has operated in Russia over the last two decades. Yet, the government is behaving in exactly the way many Trump supporters claim as their reasoning for carrying firearms - to protect against an authoritarian, unconstitutional government. For example, taking Maduro without congressional clearance, breaks the constitution. This sets up a bit of a conundrum, doesn't it?
2nd Amendment:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
The problem is that these amendments are part of the constitution, but if some parts of the constitution are allowed to be broken, then all the parts of the constitution aren't worth the paper they are written upon. Any of them can be broken by the government, whenever it is convenient for them to do so. And this should strike fear into the opinions of all the people who support Trump, because he doesn't care about the constitution or the law, which means that all those who believe themselves protected by their "rights", aren't protected at all. The only thing "protecting" them currently, is that it isn't yet convenient or necessary to act against those groups.
First they came...
And I did not speak out.
Laws themselves change all of the time, but if there is one thing that should be accepted, is that governments should not break the law. If people working in the government break the law and aren't prosecuted for their actions, that is corruption. And when people accept corruption from their government, then that is supporting a corrupt regime. It is little different to the Russian oligarchs who systematically stole nearly all of the assets of the country, or the actions of Putin to protect the theft, of which he was a large part.
Over the years, there have been many contentious police shootings. For example, George Floyd was shot and killed in Minneapolis in 2020, not far from where this woman was shot tonight. However, what is obviously different in this case has been the response of the government, where they have immediately justified the shooting as clean. Trump stated the woman "viciously ran over the ICE Officer" - which obviously didn't happen according to the video. It is undisputable propaganda from literally the highest level of the US government. There was no "we will investigate", there were no "condolences to those affected" - it was just coverup damage control.
I have just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is a horrible thing to watch. The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis. They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE. We need to stand by and protect our Law Enforcement Officers from this Radical Left Movement of Violence and Hate!
From the President of the US.
If we saw this in film at the cinema, perhaps with some old white actor like Gene Hackman playing the president, who would you side with? But this isn't a movie, this shit is actually happening in real life, publicly, broadcast globally. It is like the US government has watched too many movies, and are acting on what they have seen. Maybe Trump sees himself as a president in a Tom Clancy novel.
The truth is stranger than fiction.
Do you like living in this movie?
Taraz
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Truth is said by those who are my friends or kiss my feet. My comunist government is right al least when they said US is evil.
No country is evil - just the people in charge :)
It is chilling to see how the official narrative can so blatantly contradict visual evidence without any consequences. What you mention about “propaganda from the highest level” is precisely what defines a dystopia: it no longer matters what your eyes see, but what those in power order you to believe. When justice becomes an exercise in public relations and damage control rather than a search for truth, the Constitution ceases to be a shield for citizens and becomes an optional tool for the state. Excellent analysis of this “script” that seems straight out of a film, but with real human consequences.
I keep expecting that at some point, Trump allies call bullshit on this, but they seem to keep doubling down.
The man has spent months waging his war on immigration with no respect for due process and legality. He just kidnapped a foreign government leader without a declaration of war here or concern for international law anywhere. His M.O. is to demonize his opposition. And yet, somehow, the MAGA crowd who could see the injustice of Biden is blind to Trump's real criminality. It doesn't help that the Democrats have been crying wolf for a decade now and trying everything they could to accuse him of everything imaginable regardless of the evidence, but that doesn't excuse ignoring these absolutely concrete violations of the proclaimed principles of peace and small government.
I keep expecting some to wake up, but my expectations go unmet. As expectations so often do....
And this is the issue. No one should rely on the US constitution. And if US citizens can't rely on the US constitution, no other country should trust any deal made with the US.
Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan came immediately to mind as I read down those lines, before it was even mentioned.
It's disheartening to note the rise in physical violence across the US since Trump took office. I don't think it's unconnected to the personality of the US President, his warmongering disposition and tendency to violence, maybe not in action but at least in words.
I followed the 2021 elections and saw how Trump verbally abused Biden and how his words had divisive influences on the American populace. To be honest, Trump isn't refined enough in character to be US president. He might have been a better fit for a communist dictator or such. Sadly, many deluded Americans approve of his methods and actions and are singing his praises and urging him on.
A year or so now as president, he's failed to end some of the unrests in parts of the world he vowed to end. Like the war in Ukraine or the unrest in the middle East, both of which I think he said, in a debate with Kamala I viewed live on Twitter, he'd end in 24 hours of assuming the presidency. Instead, fresh conflicts have sprouted, the Iran-Israeli altercation, now Venezuela.
Venezuela might prove to be a global disaster now several of the other world's great Powers, like China and Russia are being drawn in. And he had the guts to boast in a video the American military is the best and most sophisticated and most lethal in the world. He's forgetten about the peace that was one of the main talking points of his election campaign.
Trump might just be the ruin of America and maybe the world, supposing a world war breaks out. There are a lot of similarities between Trump and Hitler though they are subtle ones and biased people will most likely not see. Only difference is Trump has the means to do worse than what Hitler attempted.
That’s a heavy take, and I totally get where you’re coming from. It’s honestly a bit rattling how much weight a leader’s words carry when things feel this shaky on a global scale. At the end of the day, words can either glue us together or pull us apart.
Some folks argue that in a world full of 'big players' with expansionist vibes, playing nice isn't always enough. It’s that classic "peace through strength" mindset—the idea that you need a solid backbone to keep others from overstepping.
Even if we don't see eye-to-eye on Trump’s style or the whole military side of things, I think we’re both on the same page: "we just want the chaos to stop and some stability to kick in". Maybe the real answer is somewhere in the middle. Anyway, props to you for keeping the dialogue open. We definitely need more of this.
Yeah. Thanks for reading.
I agree with your points.
I think basically at the moment, the USA wants the American continent (North + South America, Canada and Greenland), Russia wants Europe and China wants Asia - and I'm not sure they're going to help or hinder each other (not in any expensive way anyway). It's going to be up to all the other countries to try and stop this from happening.
If moves are made, considering how impatient governments (people) are these days, and how large egos have become - it is going to be very, very bloody.
It's a highly precarious situation. It needs to be handled delicately.
I think that this is what many of the various "lobby" interest groups are hoping for. War means increased wealth creation opportunities for them, and they expect they will survive.
*I think one of the main differences between Hitler and Trump though, is that Hitler has some kind of ideal about improving the world. Trump, is about enriching himself and feeding his ego.
This is one of the case where social media is gaining more traction. In the absence we were unable to figure out, what actually happened on the street. I think, laws are made for the common people . It is not meant for powerful people and those who makes them can twist them for their own advantage...
Thirty years ago, this would have been handled very differently - and the public would believe the government.
that true...
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While I don't like living in this movie, there is literally nothing beyond mass protests that can be done. We live in a police state where Supreme Court gave the president full immunity While in office.
Small correction, I believe Floyd was no shot he was basically choked to death...
Goes to show how broken it is, right?
Yes, I know/knew. How my brain works - shooting on the mind, as I write, it came out he got shot. Thanks for mentioning it. One of the problems with freewriting for me after the stroke is, unintended thoughts enter into the conversation :D
Oh, I see. Sometimes that happens to me as well and I don't think I ever had a stroke, maybe an effect from boxing in high school days...
I didn't see enough of the video to tell if the lady came close to running them over or not, but the fact remains ICE should have never been there in the first place and all of this could have been avoided. I thought the speech the mayor gave was pretty great.
I saw two videos and watching both makes it pretty clear that the dude was not hit at all. There is also an eye witness account of what happened and the lady that was killed a white woman 37 years old was not even an immigrant just a lady that lived a few blocks away. She was a widower with a six years old boy her husband died in 2023, so there is an orphan kid now and the ICE dude just shot her point blank. Listen to the eyewitness account in this video:
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/eyewitness-describes-ice-shooting-that-killed-woman-in-minneapolis-255580229643
What has the response been around you?
Well, we as a family are trying not to stick out during this second Trump administration. They even de-naturalize US citizens for simple clerical mistakes decades ago these days and you can always find something if you want to persecute someone.
Outside our family I heard there are protests planned in Seattle, so I am glad that I am done with office for this week, the bomb squad on the way to work in my train and station closure due to a bomb threat on the way back was enough fun for me...
From the sounds of things, it is resembling a movie more and more - a movie depicting mid 1930s Germany.
Well 50% of the voters approve everything that is going on... The shooter was identified, but will never be disciplined or anything with all senior political leaders firmly behind him. FBI took over shooting investigation to prevent state authorities from saying anything contrary to the official federal story...
Yeah, I have seen more now. I pretty much know how it is going to go. They are going to say the lady should have minded her own business. They are going to say the vehicle was a deadly weapon and although she didn't hit the guy intent was there. They have a playbook and they are going to stick to it. Supporters are going to eat it up and rally behind it. Meanwhile people standing up against injustice are going to continue to get victimized.
I think that is an accurate assessment based on how the official statements for that lady in charge changed...
"37yo shot 'died in tragedy of her own making'"
Vance.
This is the saddest part. Good people end up being punished to the point that there will be none left willing to be good.
Indeed!
Agreed. I was just telling my partner how annoying it was that international news kept reporting with official statements from Trump or Noem without any pushback... and we were chatting about how while it was factual and impartial to report on the official statements, there was a level of bias there that wasn't comprehensive... and then a minute later the Australian reporting included audio from the mayor calling out the lies and it made me feel so much better.
With some colourful language too it seems!
No, he didn't mince words at all.
Sadly fals narratives are becoming the norm these days and people are so ingrained or indoctrinated in what they believe that anything opposed to those narratives are "fake news". It actually happens on both sides though one seems to have weaponized it quite a bit more than the other.
It was unnecessary.
It is true that in the current politics, those who disagree with the government are terrorists. And in order to control or suppress them, the government takes various types of propaganda or bad decisions, and when that population starts riots or movements, the government suppresses them severely and the government can carry out any kind of difficult work, starting from indiscriminate killing of people. The word democracy is also disappearing day by day in US politics and the way they are interfering in world politics is extremely worrying and condemnable.
I don't think democracy has ever really existed in the way people think about it in the US.
I do not like living in this movie.
Not the point of your post at all... but George Floyd wasn't shot. Do you remember the video of the policeman kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes while George was saying that he couldn't breathe... he died by asphyxiation.
Yeah, thanks for mentioning, Someone else did too. I actually knew he wasn't shot, but had shooting on my mind so that is what came out onto the page. It happens when I talk too, as well as words that sound similar or mean similar coming out instead of what is intended, which has created some interesting conversations with people.
There’s a non-zero chance that Trump will use the response to this murder as an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act. If that happens, all bets are off.
Just think - this is the only the first year.
I noted the place you pointed the irony around the 2nd Amendment really got me. So many people justify firearms as protection against government overreach, yet cheer when that same government ignores constitutional limits because it suits their side.
You can’t pick which parts of the constitution matter and expect the rest to protect you later. Once laws become optional for those in power, rights become temporary privileges. That’s not freedom, that’s just delayed control.
"Delayed control" - precisely. It is being friends with the bully, until the bully chooses not to be friends with you.
There is news coverage here in the U.S. that is blasting the administration and their response to the shooting. I have been watching it and can tell you that most law enforcement experts interviewed said it is a shit show.
I am not sure riots will arise from this as the local officials are doing well to keep things calm and under control. The governor and mayor have done a decent job of keeping the population calm by immediately acknowledging the anger and fear of the people. Unlike the federal officials who are trying to ignite things more through lies and propaganda.
On another note, I did look what it would take for a U.S. citizen to live in Finland this evening if that tells you anything :-)
I think that most of the riots these days, especially the violent ones, are part of an organised plan to create disruption.
Have a job before coming!
Norway or Denmark might be more fun - but you are always welcome :)
I agree.
I would be coming with retirement income and possible self-employment :-)
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