Not My Meme! #949

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But what does this prove? Assuming this is true, you would think the motivation would be that BCBS ends up paying less overall due to vaccinated kids not getting sick which is an argument for vaccination, not against.

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Do you want to go to a doctor that makes decisions based on buying his side ho a new car, or do you want to go to a doctor that does it for the love of healing people?
You can separate the two with this issue.

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Can you? What if getting vaccinated is both the best choice for most people based on outcome AND doctors get rewarded for vaccinating people?

Also, not that I think it changes the argument a whole lot either way, the $400 per child things was only happening in certain places, not everywhere (Michigan is the one place I am aware of) and it was capped at $9600, not $40K or $80K. There were also other metrics that had to be met to get this bonus besides vaccination.

But my original point was only that Blue Cross wouldn't be paying doctors to vaccinate people if it didn't save them money. The only way it saves them money is if people stay healthier (on average) when they are vaccinated.

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I don't know if you are aware, but rokerfella bought all the medical skools in the early 20th century.
They only teach what rokerfella wanted taught.
This is why doctors get no nutritional education.
All they get is give this pill, shot, or surgery.
IF they get out of line they lose their licenses.
You couldn't pay me to go to a doctor, and there isn't enough money in the world for me to take their advice.
https://resource.rockarch.org/story/early-20th-century-reforms-of-medical-education-worldwide/
https://www.vagelos.columbia.edu/about-us/columbia-medicine-magazine/archives/fall-winter-2017/vp-s-news/rockefeller-connection-medical-centers-beginnings
Big bro doesn't love you, he wants you dead because you are breathing his air.
You can reject these facts, but that won't change the reality of what I've said here.

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Not really sure what this has to do with my response. Did you see something in my response that was not factual?

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Yes, blue cross doesn't have to worry about taking a hit in one business when it gets made up in another to serve the purposes of those with control.
Losses get written off the taxes.

Where do you get your news?

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From a variety of sources, why?

Just so I have it straight, your position is that BCBS pays doctors to vaccinate children to 'serve the purposes of those with control' and is willing to take a loss because they make it up in tax write-offs? Seems overly complicated and rather ineffective. I wouldn't think most doctors would sell their souls for a measly $10k (which is what the program in this meme was actually capped at...not $40k or $80k). At least not the few I've personally known over the years.

Plus there's the fact that this wasn't really a nationwide thing but done only in select areas. I haven't bothered to see why those areas were chosen. I suspect they had a lower vaccination rate than other places or something (which fits whether they were doing it for good or evil). Unless BCBS is directly being paid to offer this money, then they are still losing money if vaccines do more harm than good, tax write-off or not. Meanwhile, life expectancy continues to rise.

Also, while the Rockefeller Foundation did fund some medical schools in the U.S. (most notably Johns Hopkins) and abroad (most notably China) in the early to mid 20th century, it was hardly all or even most. To be fair to the Rockefellers, medical care wasn't great in the early 20th century.

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From a variety of sources, why?

It just seems that you give the benefit of the doubt to a system that kills more people than we lose in wars.
https://www.rockvilleconciergedocs.com/prescription-drugs-have-killed-more-than-all-us-wars-combined/
I can only attribute that to your sources of information.
https://archive.org/details/murder-by-injection-eustace-mullins
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ju4HmBhYylUM/
https://archive.org/details/39002086348423.med.yale.edu/mode/2up

Just so I have it straight, your position is that BCBS pays doctors to vaccinate children to 'serve the purposes of those with control' and is willing to take a loss because they make it up in tax write-offs?

Yes, the control freaks can buy a property from the real estate arm of the corporation at an inflated price in order to force poisons on the population.
There are many ways to hide what is actually happening.
With the taxpayer picking up the tab for the shots they don't even lose money.
How else can they afford such a bonus in the first place?

Forgive me if I don't have any trust in anybody that is motivated by money.

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https://archive.org/details/b20388718/mode/2up
It took a minute, but I found it.
This is from 1898, the control freaks have been lying to us for a long time, along with all those they control.

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I don't tend to give the benefit of the doubt to anything, least of all supposed facts presented in meme format that are almost always lies, half-truths, or otherwise inaccurate and misleading. Like the one in the OP. Presented by itself, the "facts" in it don't really show nefarious intent by BCBS. Add to that the fact that the numbers are significant exaggerations and it makes whatever argument you are trying to make come across as not credible.

Personally, I think large corporations are self-interested which is why my first guess as to why BCBS would pay for vaccination would be because vaccination results in overall better health outcomes (or at least BCBS believes that it does). It also fits Occam's razor. Better health outcomes result in lower insurance payouts. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. But I don't think you'll convince anybody using arguments based on inaccurate info.

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Killing a bunch of customers lowers payouts, too.
They already have their money, now they don't have to pay.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK225187/

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Your conflating arguments here. That link refers to adverse medical events but seems to mostly refer to things that happen in hospitals, not vaccinations which aren't even mentioned. If a patient has made it to a hospital, then the insurance company is already out a boatload of money regardless of whether or not the patient ultimately dies.

To the best of my knowledge, the kinds of vaccines that were being paid for as referred to by the OP don't lead to a lot of insta-death.

Also, while I don't see it affecting insurance companies much, "preventable adverse events" sounds like a recipe for malpractice lawsuits which I would think would be something hospitals would try to avoid. Since the study linked seems to be decades old at this point, a more interesting piece of information would be whether or not hospitals have improved in that regard since then.

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I think many people will avoid from any flu vaccine in the possible pandemic.

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The Secretary of HHS, RFK, just stated on Tucker that 2.6% of ALL vaccinations cause adverse events. The Pfizer trial data showed that the vaccinated cohort had a >23% higher rate of death by all causes. The more you look at vaccines the worse it gets.

Thanks!

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Probably shouldn't take medical advice from someone that makes more money when you are sick, or dead.™

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By itself, the 2.6% number isn't very useful information. Some vaccines could cause virtually no adverse events while others could cause lots. Also, effects as mild as soreness at the injection site or a low fever are considered "adverse events".

The numbers you quote for the Pfizer COVID-19 clinical trial are inaccurate. The actual study showed a <8% higher death rate among those vaccinated and even that is misleading. In this study there were 15 deaths recorded among the group that took the vaccine and 14 deaths among those receiving a placebo. This just indicates that there were not enough people in the study for it to be statistically meaningful. There were 43,448 total participants and there were a few more people in the placebo group than the vaccinated group. Having said that, I don't think there is a good reason for most healthy people to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

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I shouldn't just recite figures, but should do what you appear to have done, which is actually look at the study myself. The figures I cited are from, even worse, a blatant propaganda source, the Vigilant Fox, and I should know better by now.

Thanks!

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To be fair, I had ChatGPT summarize it for me...with some spot checking.

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