Condemning the killer without Canonizing the man
I keep seeing people on Twitter talking about Kirk as if he were some sort of angel on a mission. I find that curious, because although I completely condemn what happened to him, I can do so without pretending he was a good representation of Christian values.

It seems to me—though I could be wrong—that this is one of those instances where people can’t accept two ideas coexisting. I can think Kirk’s death was a horrible thing, condemn his killer, and still believe his message to the youth was toxic.
It’s fascinating to watch how riled up people are getting simply because videos of Charlie saying truly messed-up things are being shared online. One would imagine Charlie had been hiding his views, that he never wanted those clips to be public—that he was ashamed. Of course, the opposite is true. Every time he had a microphone in hand, he was vocal about his positions and didn’t care if people were offended.
Some argue—and they might be right—that much of it was a show. He’d say things like empathy being a “made-up new age term” because he knew it would ruffle feathers, not necessarily because he believed it. I don’t claim to know what Charlie truly thought. All I have are his words, debates, and infamous videos. To me, he seemed proud to express those things—and if it was all for shock value, that doesn’t make it any better. That doesn’t paint him as an angel either.
A local celebrity here in Ecuador started sharing some of Charlie’s videos. The outrage was swift—and surprisingly repetitive. Again and again, people fell back on the same defense: “You’re taking it out of context!”
I couldn’t help myself. I commented that I’m fascinated by people’s inability to hold two ideas at once. When I saw a video of Kirk calling for children as young as 12 to witness public executions, I couldn’t resist trolling a little. Apparently, according to those whose blood pressure spiked today, there’s a context where making a child watch an execution is completely acceptable—maybe even desirable.
But I shouldn’t be surprised by the cacophony. People are people. They’ll fight over the silliest things—fifth-grade math problems can ignite online wars. Yet some idealistic version of me still hopes people will eventually wake up from the spell our online landscape has cast over us.
It shouldn’t be hard to conclude that life is sacred, that nobody should die for their ideas, and that sometimes, really toxic people have very large megaphones.
It’s not difficult for me to lament Charlie’s death and also oppose every single toxic thing that ever came out of his mouth. Why do we always insist on canonizing those we mourn?
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I'm not sure I even knew who he was before, but I've seen a lot since and it seems he is not someone I would like much. His death is still a tragic event that leaves kids without a father. We need to mourn every tragic death.
It looks like the MAGA crew will exploit this event, but they were less outraged when left-wingers were attacked or killed. I've heard some are deleting tweets they posted before the guy was arrested.
I just saw this elsewhere. Musk is not interested in facts:
I think any sort of political extremists tend to be bad, especially if they use violence, but there seems to be far more of that on the right that seems full of hate against all sorts of people. I don't consider that being religious automatically makes you a good person. There are plenty of people out there with serious mental health issues and some may do terrible things.
the last time he "fixed grok" it became an advocate for Hitler...
turns out facts are woke
You would think the world's second richest man would be happy, but he seems to be full of rage. I avoid him and his companies.
I'm just letting you know I know you are involved in the downvotes I suggest you sort it out
Hey bro, thanks for the support. Hope all is well in your little part of the world.
I'm not your bro please ask your friends to stop downvoting my original content
It's all good over here everything is going well very well 😁
How's it over there seems you are doing ok connected to all the whales on Hive and you even get supported when you are powering down 🤔
I had to power down to pay for food... things are rough for us, but thankfully we got some hive to use.
Are you powering up? if i had some fiat laying around, I would be buying right now.. we are due for a good run.
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I'm not powering down 🤔
Hive is definitely due a run not to the upside but the downside 😂
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
Please tell your friends to leave me alone 🙏🏾
It won't work with me
I'm glad to hear you are doing good outside of hive. I see you are an artist, so I take it you make money with your art. When I was younger I tried to do that myself.
I'm very good 😊 I do a lot more than art I'm very good with my hands
Please tell your friends to stop downvoting my original content https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314 everything is documented @steevc already knows
Please understand I don't play game's 🙏🏾
What your friends is doing is not right https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
That's interesting, they are so desperate to make twitter into an echo-chamber, that they rather AI fake statistics then face the truth.
That platform is not what it was. I could see it would turn bad with that guy in charge so I got off it.
Same here. I don't want to associate with anything Musk.
He has made too many dog-whistles to the far-right that I cannot overlook.
I agree with this. It’s important to separate the sadness of someone’s death from the harm their views caused. We can feel sorry for the way they died without praising the things they stood for.